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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#53726: Apr 2nd 2018 at 7:28:56 PM

Pink Diamond was made before they found earth.
Not necessarily, but it would be odd for them find Earth, start development by creating a diamond, then do nothing with it for quite a while.

That's probably just Earth being different for the sake of it.
There being a gem site exactly in the center speaks to the contrary.

If a certain sketch from the artbook is canon, that's the location of the Galaxy Warp.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#53727: Apr 2nd 2018 at 11:24:10 PM

Homeworld appears to have been almost stripped entirely of resources, to the point Era 2 Peridots require limb enhancers. Perhaps the Diamonds' ego prevents them from creating Diamonds anywhere else, hence Pink, Yellow, and Blue being smaller than White. They're growing Diamonds with limited resources.

edited 2nd Apr '18 11:24:46 PM by SilentColossus

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#53728: Apr 3rd 2018 at 6:43:07 AM

The one thing I keep coming back to in regards to how likely/unlikely it was that Pink Diamond was actually shattered by Rose is how diamonds are in Real Life - they're extremely hard, yes. Nigh impossible to scratch. However, they're also known to be extremely brittle - it's not hard to find stories of people accidentally shattering the stone in their wedding ring on a stainless steel sink.

I've got a few theories as to just what happened when Rose shattered PD, but one that I think has merit (going off the above) is that all of the Diamonds are surprisingly brittle in a particular way that other gems are not. If so, it might be that there's some intrinsic quality that would render Pink Diamond vulnerable to shattering from Rose's sword when no other gem would be. Bismuth would thus be honest so far as she knew; there would have been a potential factor that made it lethal to the Diamonds that she never knew about. Plus, that would throw the shattering of Pink Diamond in a whole new light... what if Rose hadn't intended to shatter PD, but instead was only hoping to poof and bubble her (which totally seems like what Rose would decide to do)? Also, imagine what Rose would have gone through if said shattering was an accident?

Mind you, I'm still kind of of the belief that PD more or less committed Suicide by Cop against Rose, but there are still many possibilities that could fit as to what happened.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#53729: Apr 3rd 2018 at 9:44:03 AM

I'd just like to point out that Steven and Lars are closer now, ever since they've been separated by thousands of light years.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#53730: Apr 3rd 2018 at 10:00:02 AM

Heh,remember when everyone thought they were going to fuse and become 'Stars'?

I've wondered if their hypothetical fusion would use the same pronouns as Stevonnie

edited 3rd Apr '18 10:52:03 AM by Ultimatum

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#53731: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:13:52 AM

I'd see no reason a hypothetical "Stars" wouldn't just go by he.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53732: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:51:38 AM

Wonder if two males would go by he?

Oh.

Unless somebody has trouble referring to the fusion as a singular being, there's no reason anyone would use they.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#53733: Apr 3rd 2018 at 12:17:49 PM

I mean every other fusion is treated as a singular being. Flourite is a fusion of six Gems and still goes by she. Even Smoky and Stevonnie use the singular they to reflect the fact that they're essentially bigender.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#53734: Apr 3rd 2018 at 12:25:07 PM

That's not what I meant.

The humans don't know about fusion...grasping the concept and referring to a fusion as two people or one person.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#53735: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:18:10 PM

About Rose and shattering.

When she was drawing her memories, Centipeetle made it clear that she saw her allies die, with the way she crossed out entire squads. Perhaps with the shattering of Pink Diamond, Rose ordered that the Crystal Gems can shatter as necessary. Which would paint last days of the war in a very different light.

In fact, the No Shatter Policy seems at odds with the above, as well as the fact that Pink was so desperate for troops she spammed them out from Beta. Eyeball is likewise traumatized by the war, though that might be due to seeing Pink die.

I personally think it would be very cheap that if all of Homeworld's own causalities came from Homeworld.

edited 3rd Apr '18 11:25:02 PM by SilentColossus

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53736: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:23:29 PM

I had just been assuming that the Crystal Gems were working under "Don't shatter unless absolutely necessary", whereas Homeworld was working under "Only shatter unless given notice not to."

I know Steven Universe is optimistic but the idea that the Crystal Gems never shattered anyone, ever, aside from Rose doing in Pink strikes me as...not something the show would go for, actually.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53737: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:45:53 PM

Granted, it seems easier to <poof> and bubble a Gem than it is to shatter one. So I'm having trouble thinking of circumstances were shattering is actually necessary.

Disgusted, but not surprised
SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#53738: Apr 3rd 2018 at 11:59:26 PM

It is also easy to shatter one. Amethyst fell, Lapis was ran over, and Eyeball hit an asteroid. It also seems that in many cases, cracks expand until they shatter. The Crystal Gems need not intentionally shatter to have done things that got gems killed. It is highly likely that many died because they were poofed and fell underfoot. Or hit by one of those cannons.

Again, war is war. It is easier to poof and stomp on a gem than bend over, pick it up, then bubble it. Especially because there would be another Quartz or Agate attacking you within seconds.

edited 4th Apr '18 12:03:49 AM by SilentColossus

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53739: Apr 4th 2018 at 12:04:16 AM

[up] Hitting an asteroid is easy?

edited 4th Apr '18 12:04:28 AM by M84

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#53740: Apr 4th 2018 at 12:05:20 AM

In fiction, yeah.

edited 4th Apr '18 12:07:29 AM by SilentColossus

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#53741: Apr 4th 2018 at 4:58:13 AM

> So I'm having trouble thinking of circumstances were shattering is actually necessary.

Probably when you're up against a gem that's too strong to properly poof and the only way to end the threat is to shatter them or risk loosing more lives in the process

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53742: Apr 4th 2018 at 5:13:26 AM

I am basing this on the assumption that it's easier to poof the Hard Light bodies than it is to shatter the actual Gems.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#53743: Apr 4th 2018 at 5:15:11 AM

Well, the diamonds would have a vested interest in making sure no one would ever, ever think about rebellion again. Executing the rebels is one good way of doing that.

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#53744: Apr 4th 2018 at 6:44:22 AM

Also, regarding Crystal Gems shattering their foes, even if Rose ordered Crystal Gems to take prisoners and leave them alive, there's the fact that we know not every Crystal Gem agreed with that (I have to imagine Bismuth was not a sole outlier in that regard). Particularly in battle, it was probably easy for a more aggressive gem to shatter their foe and either hide it or play it off as an accident. War Is Hell, and Steven Universe has never tried to suggest otherwise. Whether it be by accident, subversion of orders, We Have Reserves moves on the part of the opposition, or design by the leadership of the Crystal Gems, Homeworld gems were certainly shattered during the rebellion.

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Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#53745: Apr 4th 2018 at 3:10:42 PM

Dove Launches Self-Esteem Campaign with 'Steven Universe'

Dove soap is launching a two year campaign with Cartoon Network's series Steven Universe that is aimed to build young viewers' self-esteem and body confidence.

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GlitterCat Since: Mar, 2018 Relationship Status: The Skitty to my Wailord
#53746: Apr 4th 2018 at 3:23:39 PM

That's really cute. Though it feels weird having Jasper be uncorrupted, Amethyst was straight up awesome, she's a great role model.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#53747: Apr 4th 2018 at 3:58:56 PM

That was adorable! Also, Jasper trashing the set was freaking hilarious.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#53748: Apr 4th 2018 at 4:59:12 PM

[up][up]There's a reason they showed they were Animated Actors a few seconds in.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#53749: Apr 4th 2018 at 5:37:19 PM

the amount of jokes I'm now hearing about curing Jasper's corruption with Dove™ products is too high

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#53750: Apr 4th 2018 at 6:24:48 PM

I'm probably being really dumb but there's this manga called Houseki No Kuni and it seems really cool. It also features Gem named characters including Padparadscha! And no I'm not saying anyone ripped anyone off!

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