This post is lagging conversation-wise, but "propaganda" is basically a synonym for advertisement, and not even necessarily the political kind.
Instead of asking if something is propaganda, you should question if it matches the varied negative connotations of the term:
- Being politically biased when coming from someone responsible for providing objective, evidence-based information.
- Disguising political advertisement as something else (often art or entertainment) so people are less likely to think they're being persuaded.
- Coming out when contrary reports are suppressed (or at least not held up as high by someone with power).
- Presenting information the maker knows, or should now, is factual incorrect or misleading.
edited 26th Mar '18 10:10:18 PM by thatother1dude
So far the Pearl theory makes the most sense.
1) Pearl's backstory, and how little we know about it, has been highlighted in Gemcation.
2) Rose has a reason to take the blame, fearing that what happened to the other Rose Quartzes will happen to Pearls.
3) Rose also has reason to blame HERSELF. It's very clear that this is a major point of guilt even thousands of years later. She knows Pearl will do pretty much anything she tells her to, no matter how uncomfortable it would be for her.
4) From a writing stand point it involves fleshing out a character the audience already knows and cares about as opposed to creating a new character from whole cloth. YD also meets this qualification, but she doesn't meet any of the above points.
5) WARNING: Contains spoilers. Rebecca has mentioned a Rainbow Quartz 2.0. Meaning we're likely going to get a similar kind of arc between Steven and Pearl to the arc between Steven and Amethyst. Combining these concepts would tie together several running themes throughout the season.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
If the creator herself has publicly stated it, I really don't think it counts as a spoiler.
Anyway, to break down my thoughts on the rest of your post:
Something like that in itself really doesn't somehow make it more likely Pearl shattered Pink Diamond. Shattering Pink Diamond would have happened after Pearls' origins and defection.
As far as I'm aware we don't actually have a time-table on when all of the Rose Quartz's were bubbled.
This seems less like evidence for Pearl actually doing it, and more just stating that Rose would feel guilty if Pearl did it.
Rose is not a new character from whole cloth. It seems like you've just entirely dismissed the idea that Rose actually did it, which does not strike me as a proper line of reasoning at this time. Looking at it, seems all of your points have that basis.
edited 26th Mar '18 10:59:57 PM by LSBK
IDK. This mystery just seems really off for a Howdunnit. The big question for a Howdunnit, is whether the "how" changes anything about the crime itself.
Now Rose could have done some dirty trick to kill, PD. But I'm not sure what changes if that was the case. Shattering PD is already the darkest thing Rose has done, so her doing in an unethical way doesn't change much.
I suppose the answer could tie into a conspiracy organized by one of the Diamonds, but then the question of "Why did Rose go along with the cover up?" emerges again.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.One theory I've read about suggests that Pink Diamond was shattered as a result of the stress she was putting on her gem to remain large,since she didn't want other gems to see her true size,so when Rose struck her with the sword it shattered her instead of poofing her
I wonder if Steven is going to start hunting for the elusive Pink Diamond hoping her actually being alive would be enough to stop another invasion,and then finds her shards in that chest which leads to her resurrection when he finds out how to open it
edited 27th Mar '18 4:58:11 AM by Ultimatum
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverHoo boy do I have a lot of stuff to catch up with. To start with, as far as Garnet's story goes, it's more than a little off in certain aspects, though I don't think it's quite propaganda or intended to mislead as much as it is Garnet's own somewhat tinted view of the events in question.
As far as the suggestion that Pink Diamond may still be alive...Well, we also have the implication from The Trial that White and/or Yellow Diamond had something to do with Pink's (apparent) demise, so either one of those hints is a Red Herring or this this is going to get incredibly convoluted. Like; "Oh, Rose was actually Pink Diamond all along!!!" levels of convoluted, and that sort of twist would require a very skilled writer to pull off.
Also we've finally gotten a tiny bit of White Diamond, her hand is huge compared to that of Blue or Yellow.
edited 27th Mar '18 7:54:16 AM by CaptainCapsase
I think there's something that Steven is forgetting in regards to gem shards - there are still fragments of personality contained therein, and they can be communicated with. After all, he was able to communicate with The Cluster, and he was able to hear countless voices from it (even if what he could get was a bit jumbled).
Seems to me that the most logical possibility is that Pink Diamond was shattered, as Garnet said. However, Steven can still communicate with shards of PD when he's sufficiently close to them, which would also potentially include linking with them mentally in his sleep, similar to what he did with Malachite in "Chille Tid". It's the simplest explanation I can think of relying on information provided in previous episodes.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
To the best of my knowledge all of Steven's empath visions have been of gems that are currently alive; what happened with the cluster didn't really feel like his other visions, where he was a passive observer unable to interact with the vision, just living it out.
Random as a sort of third option is that Pink Diamond is corrupted.
edited 27th Mar '18 8:03:09 AM by CaptainCapsase
That trailer that came out a little while ago,
I think the only shot that we haven't seen yet is the one where Steven sees the barn on the moon. Though it was set up in "Letters to Lars."
edited 27th Mar '18 10:46:43 AM by WillKeaton
@53585 Yes, you're right in that all of the other instances of Steven's empathy and seeing from the eyes of another gem have been cases where the other gem in question is still alive. However, it's not like every gem triggers it - it may be only specific gems and/or specific intense emotional states, plus there's the simple fact that Steven's still young and his power is growing, so even if having an empathic moment wasn't possible back when he deal with The Cluster, he might have subsequently become capable of such a moment with a shattered gem.
I'm not guaranteeing that I'm right about this, but just that it's probably the simplest hypothesis that fits with what we've seen so far.
That said, your idea that PD got corrupted is possible. That said, it does present minor Fridge Logic questions - namely, it's very strongly suggested that the Diamond Authority inflicted The Corruption on gems on Earth as a response to news of Pink Diamond's death. If PD had been alive still, they wouldn't have done that. Thus, how could she have been corrupted? This can potentially be explained by the fact that we have Unreliable Narrator issues regarding what happened back then (even Garnet - I'm left wondering just how much she just doesn't know or was lied to about certain events like PD's shattering), but that strikes me as needless complication.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.
If Pink was corrupted or otherwise disposed of in a way other than shattering, perhaps it was something one of the other Diamonds did to her; a global corruption attack was possible with three diamonds, but perhaps a more localized version of that could be done by two (White and Yellow) or just one (White)? I also still thinks it's likely that White Diamond's powers include something along the lines of mind control and/or other mental powers over gems in line with the theme of the other diamonds' powers (Pearl's compulsion to silence herself may be one such effect of white's powers), which offers several possible explanations for the discrepancies in the official story of how Rose killed Pink Diamond.
edited 27th Mar '18 10:59:58 AM by CaptainCapsase
I decided to think of all the new stuff "Your Mother and Mine" showed/mention, and it's more than I realized:
- There's a bunch of different myths about Rose—Fluorite even thought she didn't exist. Homeworld's official history isn't just inaccurate, it seems like it's kept on a need-to-know basis.
- Rose really was made on Earth. Which means the prime kindergarten made rose quartzes and amethysts. As for the dialogue about her "home planet" in "We Need to Talk", I'd go with the previous theory that she wasn't being deceptive, that's just what they call Homeworld regardless of where they were made.
- Rose and Pink Diamond talked in person before the rebellion.
- Rose started the war by disabling the prime kindergarten. Which means the amethysts in the zoo were all made before the war started, and knew the rose quartzes before they were bubbled.
- Even though the trailer gave it away, we really did see White Diamond.
- Only Blue and Yellow Diamond's armies came to Earth to stop the rebellion, which could say a number of things about White. Maybe she doesn't have an army. Maybe she has one, but Pink didn't want help and/or White didn't want to help her.
- Easy to miss, but exactly one of the planets was labelled with a white diamond. So she does have colonies.
They probably couldn't send forces to the Earth without her asking since the Earth was her domain and their authority does not extend to the Earth,like how you can't just send ground forces to another country you happen to be allies with without some diplomacy
White presumably didn't send her forces because Pink Diamond didn't ask for her assistance,though White does aid in the Diamond attack but by that point Pink is long gone.
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I'm honestly not that jazzed by this mystery because I have a hard time believing that whatever it's leading to will be pulled off well/won't come off as unnecessary.