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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#53201: Feb 2nd 2018 at 6:58:46 PM

What pic...?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#53203: Feb 2nd 2018 at 7:17:51 PM

I don't know why, but I was thinking of the Pizza cutter from "Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service" in relation to Steven Universe...but uh, that makes more sense.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#53204: Feb 2nd 2018 at 7:28:17 PM

I’ll be fair to you and admit it wasn’t immediately clear I was talking about Rainbow Quartz’s weapon.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#53205: Feb 2nd 2018 at 8:10:40 PM

No, I knew what you meant, but my mind immediately went to something familiar..even though I already knew I didn't see the picture.

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Cross (Don’t ask)
#53206: Feb 3rd 2018 at 5:52:59 AM

If Sardonyx's hammer can double as a drill, parasol can double as that.

srebak Since: Feb, 2011
#53207: Feb 5th 2018 at 11:55:34 AM

I’m just gonna put this one out there; I’ve put a little thought into this and have noticed a few things

1. Technically speaking, Gems do actually have parents; the technology that implants their gems and the very minerals that exist within any planet

2. Technically speaking, Gems actually do have a child phase; the period in-between the time of their gem injection and their emerging from the ground

3. When you actually think about it; Gems actually do have families; the other Gems of the exact same type (I.e. all Amethysts are technically siblings, while all other quartz-type Gems are sort of like their cousins or something)

Anyways that’s just the way that I feel it all is.

4. Is it possible that the Great Diamond Authority has a lesser group Diamonds that serve underneath them but are still high above all other Gems?

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#53208: Feb 5th 2018 at 1:09:27 PM

You may feel that gems have parents and childhoods, but it's worth noting that the gems themselves don't. Pearl even explicitly states that they never had childhoods in "Three Gems And A Baby."

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#53209: Feb 5th 2018 at 1:40:22 PM

I don't think any of that is correct even technically speaking.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#53210: Feb 5th 2018 at 2:18:25 PM

About the only thing I'll agree on is that the different courts are like non biologicall families,since the Diamonds likely created Gems in their image and are the Matriarchs

Someone a few pages back mentioned that Pink Diamond is technically related to Steven since she created the Pink gems,I mostly agree with this,although his status as hybrid means they are very very distantly related

Edit:

> Amethysts are technically siblings

I see them as being like a pack,and I do recall someone noting Amethyst acts fairly canine at times

edited 6th Feb '18 3:24:24 PM by Ultimatum

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#53211: Feb 7th 2018 at 4:55:22 AM

Apropos of nothing, I had an SU based dream last night. From what I recall the Crystal Gems are en route to confront Blue Diamond, only for Blue to send out doubles of the CG to sow confusion and discord among the ranks. Though that comes with a Running Gag that those CG's she would not know about/very well, like Amethyst, look and act like crudely made caricatures.

Just a random thing but I felt like sharing it before I forgot about it.

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#53212: Feb 7th 2018 at 7:28:15 AM

[up][up]Wolf packs are usually a family.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#53213: Feb 7th 2018 at 5:03:52 PM

Has anyone noticed the pregnant lady who looks like Lapis in the Art & Origins book?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#53214: Feb 7th 2018 at 5:05:28 PM

Seen the picture so I know who your talking about

It's supposed to be Vidalia

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#53215: Feb 7th 2018 at 5:32:47 PM

She looked just like Lapis (to me at least) so I guess that was her earlier design.

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#53216: Feb 7th 2018 at 9:12:15 PM

So Michaela Dietz and Kimberly Brooks were at Cartoon Network earlier today. Hmm, I wonder what for... tongue

edited 7th Feb '18 9:23:04 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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#53217: Feb 7th 2018 at 9:31:27 PM

More evidence of the Season 6 conspiracy. Seriously I'm wondering what's up with that.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#53218: Feb 8th 2018 at 3:32:39 AM

New podcast,focusing on Peridiot!

by Rabara and Amber Cragg

  • Peridot's recent depressive episode in Steven's bathroom reminded Shelby of, "times in my life that I've gotten really, really low, and you feel like you just can't keep going."
  • Shelby relates to the feeling having all your hopes dashed by just one thing.
  • Shelby says, "Sometimes I feel like hope comes in the form of others. Even though, inside you have it, but sometimes you just need those friends to like lean on, and that was like something that resounded with me..."
  • Amber says, "... Peridot is someone that has tremendous energy, and like tremendous ability to do things with that energy, but a lot of times she can invest too much of it in the wrong space... especially with Lapis. She definitely tried so hard to make sure everything was perfect that it ended up being a catastrophe."
  • Amber notes that the ending, of Peridot planning to find a new place to grow things, is an appropriate metaphor for her "moving on to greener pastures," after even her friends' efforts to cheer her up failed, and not pinning all her hopes on just "one thing" that she was hyperfocused on.
  • Shelby thinks Peridot's positive view of Earth is mostly a result of how the crystal gems treated her while she was there. It's special to her because of the memories she made there.
  • Shelby called Peridot a "little space Dorito." She knows.
  • Amber says the crystal gems have been good role models for teaching Peridot how gems can exist outside of their assigned roles.
  • Amber thinks it's funny how quickly and how hard Peridot "goes out of line" once she realized that she can.
  • Amber would like to imagine that Peridot argues with people on the internet, is a pro-gamer on Farm Ville, and that tries to make vlogs, but doesn't know how to edit them.
  • Shelby imagines that Peridot enjoys using herself as part of random art installations in public, and using her metal powers to get attention.
Part 2: Rebecca Sugar and Ian Jones-Quartey

  • Peridot was conceived very early on in the show's development.
  • She grew out of a weird "bit" that Ian would do in the writers' room where he pretended to be an alien.
  • Rebecca and Ian love the original "Cosmos" with Carl Sagan, and how it's always positive.
  • "Clods" came from Ian doing an impression of the other side of that, a "frustrated liberal" that is angry at people that don't understand evolution. "Evolution is real, you clod!"
  • "If it's not apparent from the television show that we made, we like to very gently explain why caring about people who are different from yourself benefits everyone. This would be the opposite of that." - Rebecca
  • "All cultures are valid, you clod!" - Ian
  • Peridot's personality was also inspired by a bully-character form a very early idea for an episode where Steven was cyber-bullied, and then met his bully in person.
  • Peridot was also born out of a necessity to, as we learn about the history of the gems, to also have "a new thing that's happening in the present" for the gems to face.
  • Ian thinks "Marble Madness" is the worst episode to start the show from, because everything that happens in it is a reference to things that happened in earlier episodes.
  • Peridot's initial attitude toward the gems was also inspired by Rebecca's experiences, as a Jewish kid, having other kids "being really comfortable" telling her that everything she believed was completely wrong and that horrible things were going to happen to her, and the idea that those children really thought they were helping her.
  • Mc Kenzie asks if Peridot's initial pro-caste-system understanding of the world is drilled into the gems, or is that conditioning already in gems when they pop out of the ground fully formed. Ian, in a voice brimming with coyness, says, "That's like a bigger question about the nature of gems..."
  • Rebecca says it's a bit of both, and that Peridot has learned a lot by researching the places she's assigned on missions to, but Homeworld has revised the history of those places to make themselves look as good as possible.

Summary is by SingularityIsNigh,their post can be found here

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#53219: Feb 8th 2018 at 9:31:53 AM

Peridot's initial attitude toward the gems was also inspired by Rebecca's experiences, as a Jewish kid, having other kids "being really comfortable" telling her that everything she believed was completely wrong and that horrible things were going to happen to her, and the idea that those children really thought they were helping her.

O.O

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#53220: Feb 8th 2018 at 9:47:59 AM

I could see that happening...

Beliefs...

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#53221: Feb 8th 2018 at 10:09:27 AM

...but Homeworld has revised the history of those places to make themselves look as good as possible.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#53222: Feb 8th 2018 at 11:25:20 AM

Yeesh. Sucks that Rebecca Sugar had to put up with so much antisemitism when she was younger. And she's pretty young, too; I thought the kids of her generation would know better.

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Think of the mooks!
#53223: Feb 8th 2018 at 12:19:32 PM

I mean, the kids of today's generation still deal with that crap in many places (and worse, as I've seen on the nightly news more times than I care to think about). What would make you think that the previous generation was any better?

But I'm getting perilously close to going off-topic, so that's all I'll say about that.

For the summary of the podcast, I'm curious just how much of Homeworld's revisionism is active editing and how much is them obliviously hewing to cultural stereotypes. Not to excuse either one, but it's instructive to know how to deal with it.

That said, damn you, Ian Q, I've been wanting an answer to the question as to the lengths of gem conditioning for a long time (after all, I've long hypothesized that it'd be possible to even implant fake memories into gems before they emerge, and I'd love to have confirmation either way).

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#53224: Feb 8th 2018 at 2:44:01 PM

I've been wanting an answer to the question as to the lengths of gem conditioning for a long time
On a related note, are we ever going to understand what Peridot meant by "I don't have memories of it." where the "it" appears to be "(being born on) Homeworld".

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#53225: Feb 8th 2018 at 5:53:27 PM

As disturbing as the whole "lifeforce drained forever from a planet until it's a dead husk" thing is, does anyone else hope that a future episode will actually show a new Gem being created?

Disgusted, but not surprised

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