Yeah, Sereg, getting a bit hyperbolic there.
Anyway, think of it like if say a husband gave up himself to protect his wife even though the two of them had promised they'd face all of their issues together. The wife in that situation would very much have a right to be upset at her husband making such a decision without her, especially after they've expressly said they'd handle everything together as partners. That's what happened here.
Obviously Connie and Steven aren't married, but the feeling is very much the same and Steven doing it to protect Connie doesn't make up for that betrayal.
edited 11th Jan '18 6:28:23 PM by LSBK
It's almost as if Both Sides Have a Point in this argument. Much like many fights couples have. Them being able to work through it eventually (and by eventually I mean it took two episodes) is actually pretty important to their development as individuals and as a team.
And since, as I mentioned before, this is a series where relationships are so important they manifest as a powerup, this makes them stronger too.
Disgusted, but not surprisedI think it's important to note that she doesn't get really angry at Steven until he repeatedly dismisses her feelings
Forever liveblogging the AvengersInnocently Insensitive is still being insensitive, after all. Connie being upset about this is perfectly understandable.
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Not really, there's no reason for Steven to have thought A.Marine wouldn't have just kept all the humans.
There's no reason that she shouldn't have kept all the humans even with her wanting so quickly to get off Earth, she should've seen getting Rose as a bonus because their mission was still to get the humans.
The only type of reason that allows Steven's sacrifice to work is if it's to stop everyone from being killed or hurt.
edited 11th Jan '18 7:07:38 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Yes. She wanted off Earth very quickly and it wouldn't have taken very long regardless because of her broken wand's OP-ness
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Aquamarine saw Rose as a more valuable target than the humans and a more serious threat than the other Crystal Gems, if only by reputation. Even that small risk of Rose escaping was not worth taking the humans.
It's funny that I'm saying this, when earlier I was pointing out Aquamarine could have taken everyone anyway. My real point being that all options were terrible—and even if they weren't equally terrible, the question of "Which was better?" has no clear answer and is largely besides the point of Steven and Connie's argument.
Even if Steven's decision was a mistake, it was a reasonable one, but he was clearly wrong in several other ways:
- As mentioned before, dismissing Connie's feelings (which was way worse than her initial complaint that he overlooked them).
- Not even acknowledging that it could have been a mistake.
- Justifying his actions as a necessity, not because a comparative assessment of different options (i.e. "As strong as we are together, we still have out limits."), but a misplaced sense of responsibility ("This whole thing was my fault").
- Doing all of the above because he thought, by pretending things were better than they were, he would make people feel better.
At this point, the only reason I'm saying A.Marine should've still taken more humans as a consequence for Steven's decision is for the purpose of not ignoring the Lars stuff that could still happen and acting like Steven and Connie's quarrel was more important.
Because it wasn't, Steven realized he was wrong the very episode Connie brought it up and the only thing stopping stuff from being resolved is them not being able to contact each other for cute reasons.
edited 11th Jan '18 9:44:45 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Well of course he'd think thought he was right till someone challenged him on it & made him think about what he did in clearer details.
We usually don't put much thought into or realize/consider the deeper implications of our actions till someone calls us out & makes us introspect.
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I know I don't normally type in detail about things I'd rather see happening plot wise...but this is one of the times I just felt like it.
If I'm typing longer post, then it's definitely necessary.
He didn't think about it until the end of the episode where he realized the same thing happened to him.
edited 11th Jan '18 10:09:22 PM by randomness4
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Has anyone seen that tumblr post of Pink Diamond freaking her shit over Yellow and Blue shattering one of her gems and standing in front of the rest of her colony defensively? I saw it once and I loved it but now I can't find it again.
My various fanfics.Being prepared for the possibility of something does not give you the right to allow it to happen. She has no right to be upset.
That would not be a betrayal. The wife is the traitor in that situation. Connie betrayed not only Steven, but every living thing n Earth by deciding that she wanted every last one of them to die, just so that she could have a few more seconds of fighting a losing battle alongside Steven.
Because her feelings are worth dismissing. They only exist because she has dismissed the feelings of every other inhabitant on Earth and decided that hers are the only important ones.
That’s what she was doing. What makes it the stupidest thing in the show is the show treating her as right.
What's the point in exaggerating Connie's position...?
Nobody would've died in either scenario...
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I think it's safe to say at this point what we have here is a case of what I refer to as "over the top vitriol" towards Connie Maheswaran.
Symptoms include casting any and all actions in the worst possibly light, above and far beyond any negative portrayal, if any, the story itself might intend.
If left untreated, the patient may suffer from no longer being taken seriously as most people simply wave off any negative statements of "of they just hate (insert character name here), just ignore them."
Primary prescriptions include chill pills and perspective.
More seriously, you effectively lost me for good at "Because her feelings are worth dismissing."
edited 11th Jan '18 11:24:13 PM by sgamer82
...Connie couldn't do anything. She was fifty feet under him when Steven decided to turn himself in.
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to be about after Steven had turned himself in, not when they were on the ship.
edited 11th Jan '18 11:35:15 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast
Jawbreakers on sale for 99¢It's always the wrong time when SU is involved...
How neat...
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Connie's feelings were irrational there. She was being selfish.She had decided it was a personal offense that Steven thought that the two of them working together to result in them losing and everyone on Earth being murdered was a better outcome than Steven taking matters into his own hands to ensure that everyone else survived. That is selfish, irrational and IMO evil.