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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52801: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:20:35 PM

[up][up]So, that means Steven will trust Connie in a crutch moment?

[up]More than one significant thing can happen at a time, I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

edited 11th Jan '18 1:21:43 PM by randomness4

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#52802: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:26:11 PM

[up] Mostly your complaint makes it sound like nothing of importance happened while, on the very same sentence, saying something important happened. It's not an issue of "more than one", it's more like you seem to be saying "one's the same as zero"

Either something happened or it didn't, and you're saying both are true at the same time.

edited 11th Jan '18 1:27:37 PM by sgamer82

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52803: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:31:52 PM

Significant isn't the same as worthwhile to me...

So just because something significant happened, doesn't mean it was worth going the route they did.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52804: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:36:30 PM

Steven and Connie's argument does seem to lead into their space adventure where they hallucinated Pink Diamond.

Steven Universe as a show builds on itself in weird and unpredictable ways. A lot of seemingly pointless one-offs are to help establish something down the road.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#52805: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:38:49 PM

So, that means Steven will trust Connie in a crutch moment?
He realized what she meant before Kevin's party. He was just anxious about if she hated him, and how to talk to her about it.

edited 11th Jan '18 1:40:21 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52806: Jan 11th 2018 at 1:49:03 PM

[up][up]Their argument had nothing to do with that, they just needed to reunite before such a thing could happen...

And if their squabble was necessary, Steven's guilt honestly should've gotten Connie captured too since she was trying to stay and help...that way, they'd be stuck together and forced to work it out.

Honestly certain events can easily play out the same way and because Steven wouldn't be distracted from Lars by his Connie problem on Earth, there would no reason to be gone from space stuff for long besides Lapizuli leaving.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#52807: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:07:31 PM

Significant isn't the same as worthwhile to me...

So just because something significant happened, doesn't mean it was worth going the route they did.

And I'm using the words synonymously. Taking them differently doesn't really refute my original point that your complaints about significant events, regardless of the words actually used, struck me as inherently contradictory.

edited 11th Jan '18 2:21:55 PM by sgamer82

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#52808: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:12:04 PM

I thought Connie's argument with Steven was worthwhile just because it acknowledged that Steven giving himself up like that was really dumb.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#52809: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:18:41 PM

Well it was a decision made in the heat of the moment.

I'm not sure what else he could have done.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#52810: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:22:39 PM

The impression I got was that Connie wanted Steven to see least try, and save "noble self sacrifice" as the last resort not the first

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52811: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:29:08 PM

It was dumb and I'm saying that more than just Lars should've been captured because of it.

As in Connie too and she could've gotten on his case while they're stuck on HW instead of on Earth where Lars just isn't as important to them for somewhat understandable but not narratively justifiable reasons.

It ultimately just wasn't as important to just not be with Lars and the off colors while Steven and Connie work out their issues.

edited 11th Jan '18 2:32:15 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#52812: Jan 11th 2018 at 2:32:01 PM

They weren't going to leave without the humans until he told Aquamarine he was Rose Quartz. Giving himself up like that just assured that they wouldn't have the time to find a way to win the fight.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#52813: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:26:40 PM

[up] They brought out Alexandrite and that still was useless against Aquamarine's wand. What more could they have done?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52814: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:29:55 PM

Something besides brute force.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#52815: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:30:05 PM

Phone Lapis and ask for help?

Granted if a fusion can't stop the wand,then Lapis would be beaten just as easily

edited 11th Jan '18 3:30:19 PM by Ultimatum

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#52816: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:45:45 PM

Unless the wand can stop water, Lapizuli wouldn't be useless...she doesn't even have to physically be that close.

Not close enough to be seen anyway.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#52817: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:47:24 PM

Why wouldn't the wand stop water?

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52818: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:49:47 PM

Because its not one solid mass and it probably has a limit that falls short of the entire ocean?

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#52819: Jan 11th 2018 at 3:51:06 PM

Lapis doesn't seem to use the entire ocean for combat purposes. Instead, she throws waterpunches like a waterbender. Or uses clones that one time.

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#52820: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:02:42 PM

Phone Lapis and ask for help?

Who's to say she'd be able to make it before Aquamarine and Topaz just took off with the humans in tow?

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52821: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:05:44 PM

Because its not one solid mass
I don't think being solid or a single object matters. She froze Alexandrite, three separate people in the air, and Onion down in the water at the same time. Whether it's from her skill or really good aim assist, Aquamarine can clearly pick out targets even if she's not directly aiming the wand at it.

One potential weakness to that is she still presumably needs to see what she's using it on, and can't do that in every direction. Which means fusing into Alexandrite made things harder, though that was done to stop the ship.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#52822: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:07:48 PM

I dunno,she seemed to fly back to Homeworld just fine and that's not even in their galaxy,she's probably able to fly really really fast,especially if you told her Steven had been captured by Homeworld

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edited 11th Jan '18 4:08:21 PM by Ultimatum

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#52823: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:09:44 PM

[up] Even then, there's no guarantee they wouldn't call her and hear, "Hey, this is Lapis! Sorry, I'm not at the phone right now. Leave a message!" Beep

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#52824: Jan 11th 2018 at 4:45:23 PM

I was about say Peridot going in Lapis's place wouldn't change anything,then I remembered she built a robot which fired lasers,but even that would likely lose to the wand

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52825: Jan 11th 2018 at 6:06:10 PM

The payoff of that episode was Steven coming to the realization "Wow, I really screwed up."

Also, the whole Steven-Connie argument is significant. It's their first real fight as friends (or I guess something more). Them going through it, working through it, and coming out changed but still okay? That's a huge step forward.

edited 11th Jan '18 6:06:40 PM by M84

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