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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52676: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:42:35 PM

Also, I'm not the only one who thinks that Centi was a Nephrite under White, right?
She probably is a Nephrite, but she colored the gem who told her to evacuate yellow.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52677: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:44:27 PM

While looking at this thread, I can't help but be reminded of "Lion 4: Alternate Ending". Steven speculates endlessly about the "Nora" tape only to discover it has a perfectly good and mundane reason to exist. The whole episode seemed to be a lighthearted jab at the fandom's tendency to come up with a lot of weird theories.

It wouldn't surprise me if the actual explanation for WD not showing up earlier really was also a perfectly mundane one.

Disgusted, but not surprised
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#52678: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:47:24 PM

Maybe she was ambulatory back then, but has since then become totally detached, perhaps because of Pink's death?
This is close to my own theory. Blue wants to preserve Pink's memory, Yellow wants all reminders of Pink Diamond wiped out of existence, and White would rather just forget/ignore the entire thing altogether.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#52679: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:47:42 PM

Well, if it really took all of the (living) Diamonds to do the corruption wave, maybe we'll find out more about White when they delve deeper into what corruption actually is.

edited 8th Jan '18 7:48:17 PM by LSBK

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52680: Jan 8th 2018 at 7:56:46 PM

It wouldn't surprise me if the actual explanation for WD not showing up earlier really was also a perfectly mundane one.
It's hard to call anything "mundane" in this context. I'll be disappointed if her absence from the trial and all dialogue doesn't say something about her character.

If nothing else, it gives the impression that White Diamond doesn't give a shit about her "sisters", and the feeling is mutual.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52681: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:03:45 PM

Mundane compared to other explanations like "She's Pink Diamond's real killer" or "she IS the giant statue of her".

Her being offworld busy with the tasks of overseeing colonies and new worlds to conquer while her sisters are busy trying to achieve closure over Pink Diamond's death one way or another would be telling. It would say that she either doesn't give a crap or finds the whole thing unnecessary because she has already achieved closure in her own way and has moved on to business as usual.

Perhaps she also believed Yellow and Blue would be able to handle the disposal of "Rose" without her. If she knew they would screw up what should have been a simple show trial...

I guess this would make her something of an Only Sane Man among the Diamond Authority, in a Pragmatic Villainy sort of way. Of course, I could be proven wrong. For all we know, WD really might be the worst of the lot.

edited 8th Jan '18 8:09:37 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#52682: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:46:36 PM

I guess a bunch of episodes came out and I need to catch up.

I skipped the last batch because I wasn't up to it. Are any of those worth watching or should I just skip ahead to the new episodes?

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52683: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:47:19 PM

Well, Im finally sawing the stem bomb after a while, Im finishing gemcation and....I kinda dislike this episode.

I mean, it feel.....cringing , how all the gems think steven got affected by whatever he saw in homeworld and instead he is just worry by Connie? I get he is a kid but I cant shake the feeling of "dude, there are TWO damn space tyrant and Lapis just went to space because of that, FOCUS!" I reaaaaaally didnt like steven here.

Anyway, let hope the next episodes be better.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#52684: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:51:12 PM

(Thoughts on an earlier post) While I like the idea of Rainbow Quartz's weapon being a Parasol of Pain, I myself think it's going to be a giant pizza cutter/buzzsaw-on-a-stick or a battle axe that looks like this.

edited 8th Jan '18 8:52:13 PM by Kaiseror

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#52685: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:52:55 PM

We haven't really had a summonable axe yet.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#52686: Jan 8th 2018 at 8:55:25 PM

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Dude, just watch the episodes. Don't skip them.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52687: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:10:18 PM

"dude, there are TWO damn space tyrant and Lapis just went to space because of that, FOCUS!"

There wasn't much he could do about the two damn space tyrants or Lapis at the moment. Might as well wallow in relationship angst.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52688: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:25:49 PM

[up]He could to convince Lapis to stay or at least spend time with the gems and his father who are worry for him or dunno...DONT DRIVE THE CAR NEAR A RISK FOR HAVING A MESSAGE!

it just feel stupid when put side what happen in homeworld, everyone else was worry and he dosent seen to care.

Ugghhhhhh.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52689: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:28:33 PM

Convince Lapis to stay how? Wasn't she already gone?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#52690: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:29:28 PM

She was, yeah. Also, I mean, it's Lapis. She's not the easy to convince type.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52691: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:30:01 PM

Relationships are kind of a big deal in this series. And this is Steven's first actual fight with someone who is really important to him.

As for Lapis...exactly what could have said or done to convince Lapis to stay and risk getting caught up in another war?

edited 8th Jan '18 9:30:52 PM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#52692: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:30:30 PM

Also wasn't the whole episode basically about trying to convince Lapis to stay, to the point where the emotional climax was Peridot making a heartfelt speech about staying and fighting for Earth and Lapis flew off anyway?

There's not much more convincing Steven could have done in that situation.

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52693: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:31:49 PM

If this were a more typical show, the speech would have worked. I'm actually a bit glad it didn't work out that way.

Disgusted, but not surprised
unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52694: Jan 8th 2018 at 9:41:34 PM

I know lapis wuld gone anywa, I want him TO TRY because he is steven, that would also allow lapis to deep a little bit longer about the war.

Anyway, looking back at the kindergarden....I LIKE this episode, is funny how it start with Steven and amathyst helping Peridot to get out of her angst and unlike steven who just shut down, looking peridot grow is really good

......ok, that rant was......WOW.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52695: Jan 8th 2018 at 10:00:30 PM

I'll point out that a bunch of sources got the episode order wrong: "Gemcation" is set before "Raising the Barn". Steven wasn't dwelling on what happened to Lapis because it hadn't happened yet.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#52696: Jan 8th 2018 at 10:02:20 PM

I guess a bunch of episodes came out and I need to catch up. I skipped the last batch because I wasn't up to it. Are any of those worth watching or should I just skip ahead to the new episodes?

I don't think a series as serialized as SU is one where you can afford to skip episodes. Some of them have less impact on the "main plot" as others, but you won't know which ones they are unless you watch them.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52697: Jan 8th 2018 at 10:15:27 PM

[up][up]Is that so?.....well that is a thing them, it make gemcation look bad actually since it put between Peridot and the kindergarden and Lapis flaying away make him look stupid...

Well, he still look stupid actually and it is my "moment I didnt like in this show" next to "Pearl considering removing Steve gem" and "Amethyst shapeshifting like Rose".

Anyway looking Saddie killer is....nice, finally something about saddie, I like her being spooky and I her quiting that job, is clear they try to move her away from that place as lars is doing the same(...kinda)

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52698: Jan 8th 2018 at 10:18:22 PM

As for Lapis...exactly what could have said or done to convince Lapis to stay and risk getting caught up in another war?
Steven could have guilt-tripped her in one way or another, but he explicitly didn't want to pressure her like that.
Steven: I don't want you to leave, but I won't ask you guys to stay if you don't feel safe. If you have to go, I understand.

Also wasn't the whole episode basically about trying to convince Lapis to stay,
Most of the episode was Steven getting Peridot to admit what she wanted, both to him and Lapis, which succeeded. Then she tried to get Lapis to stay too, which failed.

edited 8th Jan '18 10:19:31 PM by thatother1dude

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#52699: Jan 8th 2018 at 10:36:31 PM

[up]Yeah that partkinda bother me bcause it feel steve want to tell her but move not too and them decide peridot to do it....it was off.

I guess they want her to do the deed, not steven.

Also steven is wrong, abstract art is bad, and he should feel bad for liking ittongue

Ok, I have to said it.....I fucking love kevin, is just a delightfully little shit....also, did he said sabina?....mmmmmmm are they going to devopt kevin? I hope so.

edited 8th Jan '18 11:04:43 PM by unknowing

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#52700: Jan 9th 2018 at 1:08:42 AM

I doubt Kevin will get much development. He's only shown up twice and only to facilitate Stevonnie Character Development. He's more of a plot device than a character in his own right. Even the Rubies got more character focus and development than him.

The closest we got to seeing any Hidden Depths was his confusion over how to reconcile a friendship which indicates (not surprisingly) that he has no actual friends.

My personal favorite baddie character is Navy Ruby. She's such a delightfully awful little monster.

"I could have done that. But then I would never have gotten to see the look on your face when you were tricked by your favorite little Ruby!"

edited 9th Jan '18 1:10:52 AM by M84

Disgusted, but not surprised

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