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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52251: Nov 17th 2017 at 9:27:34 AM

Also, true In-Universe - hasn't it still been less than a year?
Lapis moved into the barn in late summer (the leaves were changing in “Same Old World”), now it’s spring or summer of the next year.

It’s possible the debate in “Dewey Wins” replaced Beach-A-Palooza (they at least reused the sign), and “Kevin Party” is a few weeks later, which would make this early summer.

edited 17th Nov '17 9:33:06 AM by thatother1dude

Aurabolt Since: Oct, 2010
#52252: Nov 17th 2017 at 10:38:47 AM

It was a Good Bomb, I thought.

Lapis felt like she had legitimate fears, and while I feel for her, there was always a concern about the hows and whys of their relationship, especially when Peridot was doing so much.

New Mayor, yeah!

What I never got was Connie's anger at Steven. I give that he was acting like nothing had changed, and was possibly a bit overwhelming, but the fact they should have fought in all circumstances? No, that was objectively the wrong call.

1) It feels like every "Girl is mad at Guy for suspect reasons" relationship hiccups I've seen before time and again.

2) Aquamarine and her Stasis Wand was a supreme technological advantage that the C Gs could not surpass. She held a Triple Fusion and 4 Humans effortlessly and had clearly expressed no remorse for killing people to meet her ends. Battle-as Connie suggested-was a non-starter with that many innocent people on the line. Steven made the right call.

3) The fact that Connie's right in all cases doesn't make sense-given what happened to Lars, we cannot take life for granted here. Calling for such a reckless move was foolhardy, when Steven-who admittedly was cocksure about being home and everything would go back to normal-made a clear diplomatic decision that saved lives just feels off.

That big elephant here doesn't settle well with me.

Edit: I am also not a teenager, and I do get why she was mad in response to his "I'm fine, everything's back to normal" sthick that was never gonna fly. I just realize that her main argument appears to be heavily flawed.

edited 17th Nov '17 3:06:47 PM by Aurabolt

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#52253: Nov 17th 2017 at 12:22:47 PM

@52248 If it helps, we actually have a trope explaining exactly why Connie was upset at Steven during this bomb - Anger Born of Worry.

Connie frustrated me a bit, but I have the advantage of not being a teenager. I totally get why she wanted to talk to Steven face-to-face, but pulling an "I'm not talking to you" to him totally doesn't help. I know that the other options (such as a terse "we need to talk in person" or "I'm angry and this is a bad medium for discussing this") would only have been marginally better, but at least some of the problems would have been mitigated a bit if she had said something. That said, that's the kind of thing you pick up as you get older.

Also, I full-on facepalmed with Steven's comments at the end of "Back to the Kindergarten." It helped that his own words apparently sunk in by "Kevin Party," but oof, that was almost painful to watch.

Finally... I guess this is just the risk you run with a Leitmotif in general, but hearing Smoky Quartz's theme during "Back to the Kindergarten" felt a bit dissonant with the feel of the episode.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#52254: Nov 17th 2017 at 1:06:48 PM

I was thinking of an alternate scenario where Connie did go with Steven instead being left behind

  • Stevonnie and Lars go to Homeworld
  • Stevonnie is tried by the Diamonds
  • The presence of Rose's sword would change the outcome of the trial considerably
  • During the course of the trial Stevonnie unfuses in front of both Diamonds
  • The Diamonds discover 'Rose' was a fusion,and potentially discover that Steven is a hybrid,either he flat out tells them or they deduce it themselves

Beyond that it's probably the same thing with them escaping and later meeting the off colours and Lars dying and being resurrected

edited 17th Nov '17 1:10:54 PM by Ultimatum

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#52255: Nov 17th 2017 at 2:22:07 PM

Also, I full-on facepalmed with Steven's comments at the end of "Back to the Kindergarten."

What bothered you about them?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#52256: Nov 17th 2017 at 2:50:42 PM

Oh and next week's podcast is about Last One Out of Beach City according to M Katwood (the person who hosts the podcast)

edited 17th Nov '17 2:51:13 PM by Ultimatum

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#52257: Nov 17th 2017 at 3:41:07 PM

That is legit one of the best episodes in the whole series.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52259: Nov 17th 2017 at 4:39:35 PM

the fact they should have fought in all circumstances? No, that was objectively the wrong call.
Steven's plan was not a safe bet compared to certain doom. Diplomacy is not a good option against a remorseless opponent willing and able to take everything they want by force. If Aquamarine wasn't such a lazy twat, she would have taken the humans anyway. And while Alexandrite proved brute force couldn't beat Aquamarine's wand, disarming her was a possibility. Both options were terrible; one may have been marginally better, but that's besides the point.

Even if he did end of up making a practical decision, Steven was clearly motivated by a desire to put everything on himself. Before giving himself up, Steven completely failed to notice Connie's suggestion to fuse. To Connie, that probably felt like he was saying "Shut up, I'm trying to protect you!"

While that upset Connie, she started off almost apologetic about it. What she actually got frustrated with was Steven's response that he had to fix everything himself, and that it didn't matter because he got back.

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#52260: Nov 17th 2017 at 7:34:50 PM

Today's the anniversary of Gem Harvest and the introduction of Andy and Pumpkin!

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#52262: Nov 17th 2017 at 9:39:14 PM

I just wanted to mention it.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52263: Nov 17th 2017 at 9:41:07 PM

And tomorrow is the fourth anniversary of “Frybo”, while Monday is the third anniversary of “Watermelon Steven”. All are equally random to note.

edited 17th Nov '17 9:43:26 PM by thatother1dude

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#52264: Nov 17th 2017 at 9:45:49 PM

...it's been four years already?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52265: Nov 17th 2017 at 10:36:47 PM

Yes, probably.

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#52266: Nov 17th 2017 at 11:06:21 PM

It started in 2013, so... yeah. And in just a couple of months, it'll have been 5.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52267: Nov 18th 2017 at 2:46:21 AM

It started in 2013, so... yeah. And in just a couple of months, it'll have been 5.
It started in November of 2013 (only the first seven episodes premiered before the end of that year), so the show really just turned four years old this month.

After Adventure Time, it's the oldest currently running show produced by Cartoon Network Studios. It will probably be the oldest by the time it end because Adventure Time only has thirteen episodes left, while Steven Universe has at least sixteen.

edited 18th Nov '17 3:06:45 AM by thatother1dude

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#52268: Nov 18th 2017 at 3:19:58 AM

Think they'll be aired before or after AT's?

It's really uncertain.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#52269: Nov 18th 2017 at 3:37:30 AM

Also the part where Connie says she was hurt and Steven nonchalantly says "No you're not." Which basically comes out to mean "your feelings don't actually matter."

Basically it's not just Steven's actions that Connie is mad at, it's how he failed to see how those actions affected everyone else.

edited 18th Nov '17 3:38:29 AM by SalFishFin

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#52270: Nov 18th 2017 at 3:54:23 AM

[up][up]I just remembered Clarence will probably end in a similar time frame, if maybe about a quarter-year later (its well into its last season, but we don't know how much is left; probably 13-25 episodes). Then the oldest show will be We Bare Bears, which will be barely three years old.

Man, it is so weird that no official sources are acknowledging the fifth season will be the last. Is this just some morale things because the show still has good ratings, or is it still being considered for renewal? That would be intensely unusual, considering production would have to stop entirely for months without knowing if they'd start again—a large part of the staff would have moved to new jobs in the meantime.

edited 18th Nov '17 3:55:36 AM by thatother1dude

Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#52271: Nov 18th 2017 at 4:16:30 AM

There is a sixth season, they just haven't announced it yet... For whatever reason.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#52272: Nov 18th 2017 at 5:14:01 AM

Almost five years... Damn I feel old.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#52273: Nov 18th 2017 at 5:16:00 AM

>There is a sixth season,

Hope says so

Dispair says all is lost and hopeless

Denial says nothing is wrong,what you talking about

edited 18th Nov '17 5:16:43 AM by Ultimatum

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#52274: Nov 18th 2017 at 5:17:54 AM

[up][up] Same.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#52275: Nov 18th 2017 at 5:46:15 AM

So something occurred to me regarding the cluster experiments

Since they weren't exposed to the corrupting light they should be at least healable compared to the corrupt gems,it might even be possible to separate the fusions that were forced together...unless they literally glued them together or whatever horrible method Homeworld came up with for forced fusions

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