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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#51026: Jun 30th 2017 at 7:24:08 AM

I'd put money on Steven being able to defeat Pearl, Sapphire, or Ruby in an arm-wrestling match.

edited 30th Jun '17 7:24:35 AM by PushoverMediaCritic

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51027: Jun 30th 2017 at 7:58:07 AM

According to that strength scale, Pearl is stronger than Amy...and Steven isn't stronger than her.

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#51028: Jun 30th 2017 at 8:55:31 AM

Amethyst wasn't actually on the strength scale. It went Pearl, Stevonnie, Garnet, Opal, and Sugilite.

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#51029: Jun 30th 2017 at 9:03:42 AM

I'm using Hand Wave as a general "it's got enough of an explanation; we don't need to worry about it" expression. As for "elide" - come on, it's not that hard to Google a word. Yes, it's not commonly used in everyday speech, but it is a real word in English (roughly, "to leave out or omit" - it's usually used in context of pronunciation - "'Prolly' elides the middle syllable of 'probably.'" would be an example of the most common use of the word, but it's still correct how I used it above).

@51016 I always assumed that gems can get stronger. And gems that have been fighting for the last several millennia (like the Crystal Gems have against corrupted gems) would be much better for building strength than hiding for however long the Off Colors have been skulking about.

@51022 To be fair, arm wrestling is more than about just strength - the wrist lock technique matters a lot, as can the ability to breakk the wrist lock. And it wouldn't surprise me if Greg somehow knew the wrist lock and taught it to Steven (mostly because it'd be funny).

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#51030: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:05:27 AM

It went Pearl, Stevonnie, Garnet, Opal, and Sugilite.
Because the scale's point was to compare the strength of the Crystal Gems' fusions specifically. Pearl's inclusion was essentially a joke.

I always assumed that gems can get stronger.
It's something I've wondered.

On one hand, it's been repeatedly stated that gems' bodies don't change, the physiology of muscular exercise make no sense for a self-constructed Hard Light body, Amethyst's attempt to make a stronger physical form was a disaster, and the "They can't make Gems like they used to." line would explain why Pearl is a Super-Powered Robot Meter Maid but Peridot isn't.

But then, it could just be another way gems' bodies are humanlike for no reason. Their gem types explicitly limit their potential strength, but maybe any of them can get way stronger than humans, and Peridot's weak even by human standards because she hasn't even walked on her own feet for most of her life.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#51031: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:10:27 AM

I think Pearl's long regeneration time is partially due to the fact that she needs to fight against the strong tendency for Pearls to be physically weak.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51032: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:43:36 AM

That seems like a stretch...

[up][up]Pearl's inclusion on the scale might've been to make Smokey feel less bad, because if it actually started with Garnet the thing would've barely went up.

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#51033: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:54:28 AM

Going back to MorningStar's post a moment

wild mass guess The aspect of gems inhabiting a higher plane of existence doesn’t sound so ridiculous to me when I remembered that the crystals gems were originally going to be from another dimension. They could still use this idea to explain away the absence of White’s court, something along the lines of White's court being comprised of pure energy beings who rely on possessing inanimate objects rather then having their own gem to manifest from,the Blue and Yellow gems were designed with this limitation in mind so they had gems built into their form

I do recall however during ‘Together breakfast’ they had that evil scroll monster which had a possession ability once it’s scroll was destroyed.

edited 30th Jun '17 11:55:29 AM by Ultimatum

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#51034: Jun 30th 2017 at 12:07:17 PM

I always thought Pearl took time to regenerate in part because she's a perfectionist (and thus wanted her new look to be just right) and in part because she wanted to mull things over in private.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#51035: Jun 30th 2017 at 3:15:41 PM

Pearl's the kind of person that keeps making new characters in RP Gs because she notices one flaw with how she designed them. And she has to fix it.

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#51036: Jun 30th 2017 at 3:21:52 PM

Pearl's the kind of person who spends seven hours in character creator and refuses to use objectively better gear because it doesn't fit her aesthetic.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#51037: Jun 30th 2017 at 3:31:09 PM

Pearl is the kind of person who has more hours logged with the character customizer than with the actual gameplay.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51038: Jun 30th 2017 at 3:48:55 PM

Really, that's like the same joke 3 times in a row.

It works, but for serious?

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#51039: Jun 30th 2017 at 3:51:42 PM

> I always thought Pearl took time to regenerate in part because she's a perfectionist

Well there's that and she took a serious injury and needed time to heal properly,

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#51040: Jun 30th 2017 at 4:13:44 PM

Injuries only really seem to be serious for them if it's directly on the gem. As we've seen from Amethyst, they should take a bit of time to regenerate or things can get weird, but Pearl took like two weeks the first time, and that's clearly not necessary.

edited 30th Jun '17 4:14:41 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#51041: Jun 30th 2017 at 4:19:57 PM

It's vague.

She came back as soon as holo-Pearl went away.

But she didn't seem to notice how long it took her to come back.

It doesn't usually take her long to form again.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#51042: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:01:31 PM

The artbook is coming out in about a week-and-a-half, and some more previews came out, most of them made for the show's initial pitch:

  • Some very early sketches of Steven, most of him show him as much bigger, older, and scragglier. The style is even more different than the final pilot, looking a lot like Sugar's indie comics.
  • Next to the Steven sketches are what seems like prototypes for the diamond symbol, implying that was an early design for the Crystal Gems' emblem.
  • Early lyrics for the theme song Steven sings in the pilot. Most of them are a lot more morbid and boastful than the final version ("Oh! Oh! Oh!/They don't stop!/Yeah! Yeah! Yeah!/Makin' skulls pop"). One sketch seems to be of Amethyst singing and dancing along with him, and another of her arguing over where their names are in the lyrics.
  • Several of apparently hundreds of drawings of Steven by Danny Hynes (lead character designer) made between the pilot and final series.
  • Early background sketches for Beach City, including for restaurants that were and were not included in the final show.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#51043: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:23:46 PM

I doubt many other people noticed, but I reverted someone reordering the recap pages for three of the shorts "to match the way they're aired a single episode on foreign CN channels"

Seriously, screw that guy. Why the hell should that be the order we list them in? He didn't even do it right, he just left the old pages sitting around without changing the wicks.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#51044: Jun 30th 2017 at 11:40:28 PM

It's not included in [up][up], but I've seen one leaked bit of concept art (that I can't seem to track down right now) of an early draft of a hypothetical Cluster form, standing in the bay outside Beach City (presumably to use the Temple as a size comparison) all Kaiju-like. It had a single gem rather than the million-shard sphere, but it was still grotesque, misshapen, and larger than the Temple by an order of magnitude.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#51045: Jul 1st 2017 at 6:19:29 AM

from that description alone I really want to see the cluster emerge from the bubble as fully reformed Gem,just in time to fight off the hypothetical Diamond robot!

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#51046: Jul 1st 2017 at 8:06:23 AM

Considering it was a vital plotpoint that the Cluster was so huge it would destroy the Earth just by forming, and just its gem is much bigger than the temple, I don't think that will be very indicative of things to come.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#51047: Jul 1st 2017 at 8:54:13 AM

I've been hoping for Cluster to be formed outside of the Earth and just be a gigantic woman orbiting the planet for a while now.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#51048: Jul 1st 2017 at 1:57:31 PM

Okay, that'd be pretty badass.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#51049: Jul 1st 2017 at 2:45:03 PM

It's supposed to "much, much bigger than the Earth", so making it and the Earth orbit each other would throw off Earth's barycenter. You'd have to put it so far away from Earth that it would be orbiting the sun more than Earth.

And no, gem bodies controlling their gravity wouldn't matter. Even if it had no gravity, it still has mass, and so needs an appropriately large force to keep it in an orbit.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#51050: Jul 1st 2017 at 2:55:00 PM

here it is,the cluster given form!

God have mercy,that thing is hideous!

I love it already

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