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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#50451: Jun 3rd 2017 at 12:57:36 PM

The Rose Quartz were bubbled by Pink Diamond or on her orders. All of them are in pink bubbles.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#50452: Jun 3rd 2017 at 12:59:34 PM

The decision to punish all gems of Rose's type was something Yellow and Blue probably made her do after they realised that in making Rose Quartzes care about their human subjects meant they were going to join Rose's rebellion

Either that, or they had no way of telling which Rose Quartz shattered Pink Diamond, so they bubbled all of them away just to be safe.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50453: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:02:03 PM

since she wanted to preserve the humans in her zoo and Rose wanted them to be free
There's contradictory information on the zoo though. Garnet says those humans were kept as "trophies of conquest". Blue Diamond said the zoo was for "preserving earth specimens". Those are pretty different motives, and the latter isn't necessarily a bad motive depending on the reason why. It's possible Garnet just assumed the reasons for making the zoo were insidious because of who was doing it.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:11:31 PM by xanderiskander

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#50454: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:06:17 PM

[up][up] Gems don't seem to have any issue telling each other apart, from what I've seen. Unless you mean they don't have evidence of which Rose did it, regardless.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:07:03 PM by sgamer82

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50455: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:11:10 PM

[up][up][up]Blue was using them to preserve Earth specimens, because she was under the impression that the Earth would be destroyed soon.That says nothing about its original purpose.

If Pearl had been there before, presumably she would know why it existed.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:13:32 PM by LSBK

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#50456: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:12:42 PM

[up][up] Gems don't seem to have any issue telling each other apart, from what I've seen.

They do, sometimes.

Peridot: Peridot, reporting in.
Yellow Diamond: Which Peridot?

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#50457: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:13:48 PM

[up][up][up][up] I don't think those two reasons are necessarily mutually exclusive.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:14:09 PM by DrDougsh

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50458: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:30:06 PM

@LSBK: A significant chunk of the fandom now seems to see White Diamond as the Big Bad and Yellow as her Dragon, with Blue Diamond assuming the role of the feminine member of the Big Bad's inner circle who will inevitably perform a High-Heel–Face Turn. Now, Tropes Are Not Bad, and if well executed I'd not be necessarily opposed to something along those lines, but if they're going down that route I really hope the numerous issues with Gem society aren't magically fixed by defeating the big villain, because societal dysfunctions are much bigger than than the people at the top.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:31:26 PM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50459: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:37:57 PM

[up]I agree that ultimately execution is what matters most, but I still don't want them to do something that tries and lessens Blue's and Pink's responsibilities for the entire situation.

We've seen nothing to indicate that Blue doesn't completely agree with the Gem system as it exists. People are confusing grief over losing one's societal peer (something she would have at most only had three of) and projecting it on to things they haven't really been given a reason to. And I really do think that validating that belief (and the belief in general that if a villain in a kid's show is multifaceted they can't really be a villain) would be a big step down for this show.

edited 3rd Jun '17 1:38:58 PM by LSBK

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#50460: Jun 3rd 2017 at 1:40:32 PM

I think it's more likely at this point that the Rose Quartzes were bubbled BEFORE Pink Diamond's shattering and not after. Zircon mentioned that they'd all been "rounded up" IIRC.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50461: Jun 3rd 2017 at 2:01:54 PM

[up][up] I certainly hope they don't simply forget about what Blue's done, but there's a difference between a villain being multifaceted and a story heavily emphasizing their positive qualities. The former is a sign of strong writing but doesn't necessarily suggest a Heel–Face Turn, while the latter is a strong indicator that such a thing might happen regardless of whether we're talking a kid's show or not.

edited 3rd Jun '17 2:43:00 PM by CaptainCapsase

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#50462: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:00:21 PM

I have this suspicion that Pink Diamond really is in the chest inside Lion's mane,and that Rose only made it look if she had shattered Pink Diamond because she couldn't actually bring herself to kill her,and that the intended idea is that her 'Death' would leave the diamonds so heart broken they couldn't possibly fuse together to form White Diamond,so they are less powerful as a result

And with Lars's portal they are going to somehow discover the chest,with her inside

edited 3rd Jun '17 4:21:06 PM by Ultimatum

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50463: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:34:53 PM

[up] White Diamond almost certainly isn't a fusion, based on the gem position and mismatched number of colonies between the three Diamonds.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50464: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:38:44 PM

The answer to why White Diamond hasn't appeared or been mentioned being that she's a fusion would be very unsatisfying for me.

And I also don't see how it would follow anyway.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#50466: Jun 3rd 2017 at 4:56:55 PM

If anyone was going to be The Chessmaster it would have to someone with an ability like Future Vision,someone like..a sapphire,who else but someone capable of seeing the future and it's outcomes?

I imagine White Diamond,fusion or not,as being The Man Behind the Man or at the very least,someone who's absence has been intentional because they are busy pulling all the strings

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50467: Jun 3rd 2017 at 5:51:30 PM

[up] wild mass guess While we all assume Sapphires were originally created by Blue Diamond, in actuality they're originally creations of White Diamond, who shares their future vision powers, among other mental powers she possesses.wild mass guess

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50468: Jun 3rd 2017 at 6:54:11 PM

Pink was making an effort to preserve the human species because she was going to let the rest die from Earth's colonization.

I don't think those two reasons are necessarily mutually exclusive.
Saying the Zoomans are "trophies" is basically just a cynical/negative view of the same goal.

I mean if Pink literally just wanted trophies, you'd think she'd preserve the bodily remains of the original kidnapped humans once they died, not go to the significant trouble of turning them into an indefinitely sustainable population.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#50469: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:09:47 AM

I wonder, why do new episodes air on Monday? Wouldn't be more sensible to air it on Thursday or Friday or Saturday? Steven Bombs aside.

Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#50470: Jun 4th 2017 at 12:26:56 AM

All you people talk about is White Diamond.tongue

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50471: Jun 4th 2017 at 8:09:00 AM

White Diamond is probably the single most enigmatic character in the entire series, and may very well be THE Big Bad of Steven Universe, so it's understandable she's one of the biggest topics of theorizing.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50472: Jun 4th 2017 at 8:41:37 AM

I wonder, why do new episodes air on Monday?
They don't normally. Wanted aired on a Monday as a Memorial Day special.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#50473: Jun 4th 2017 at 1:07:44 PM

White Diamond is so enigmatic we don't even know what her real name is,we just assume that since she appeared besides on them on mural that's she's a diamond and by her white colour that she must be called White Diamond,that is quite sound logic after all

I recently discovered a mineral called Celestine and thought to myself 'with a name like that the gem could be really important,or at least very high ranking'

And until something is actually confirmed it's going to be endless speculation and theories,since with no actual information the possibilities are endless

edited 4th Jun '17 1:09:14 PM by Ultimatum

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#50474: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:50:49 PM

I know its an old episode but I have a question on Jail Break: Why did neither Jasper or Peridot bubble the C Gs?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#50475: Jun 4th 2017 at 4:52:26 PM

Why bother when those containment fields are going keeping them trapped?

edited 4th Jun '17 4:53:12 PM by Ultimatum

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