Lettuce hope that Steven doesn't spill beans about Lars to Pearl then...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Back when "The Good Lars" revealed that "Lars" was short for "Laramie", I thought that was a bit weird: "Lars" is a usually a variant/shorted version of the name "Laurence".
So it turns out the root of the name Laramie comes from the French surname "La Ramée"
, which means "the leafy branch". And guess who has a tree in his hair now?
Not sure this is true. If you pay attention to Zircon, all she proves is that Rose Quartz was closer to Pink than she should. This clearly points to a hole in the security, but the coverup is not, in fact, needed. It would explain the discrepancies, but other things can solve that just as well. "Rose/the culprit was in disguise", for example, would explain how she got so close without needing any coverup.
Furthermore, the premise only the Diamonds could create a "coverup" is flaws from the principle. All the diamonds know are what the gems present reported. And these gems could have created the "coverup" all by themselves. If the right one(s) were working with Rose (or whoever) they could simply lie or misdirect in the reports and/or convince others to do the same. That would still hide what truly happen without need of the involvement of a higher authority.
If we approach this situation as a mystery, I think it is a mistake to just trust blindly in Zircon's conjectures. Not that we should disregard them, but we don't need to believe every hypothesis of her is true.
Storyboard revisionist Maya Petersen made a promo for "The Trial"
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Petersen also clarified that the Zircon prosecutor is actually yellow
, she just looks green in the courtroom's weird lighting.
Another Crystal Gem could have acted as a disguised assassin. Homeworld blaming Rose personally sort of makes sense as a propaganda measure, but you'd think Blue Diamond would know about that. I could kind of see Rose making herself the Silent Scapegoat to protect the real killer from reprisals, though that doesn't seem like it would help that much.
I'm getting tired. I'll get back to this tomorrow.
"We're assuming that the flashback in "The Answer" was early on in the Rebellion, because it was just Rose and Pearl"
actually, having garnet backstory being after pink shattering make more sense: Blue is complete furious about Pink shattering and having her oportunity stole away by two gems drove her over the edge, not that this excuse her behivor but it actually add to what we see now.
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"I never assumed Lars was short for anything. "Lars" is a common name of Scandinavian origin, especially in Denmark. The country's prime minister, its most famous movie director and one of its acting exports are all named Lars.
First, you are assuming a deliberate planned disguise would be as effective as a rushed transformation. And even if it only works if another gem in the court happened to have the same color scheme, so what? We don't know who were in the court anyway (though there is a high chance many there are pink).
Again, you are assuming Homeworld is responsible to muddle the truth. The supposed assassin only needed to disguise as Rose to achieve the scenario I was talking about. And in that situation it actually could be just some crude disguise. If, I don't know, Pink Pearl suddenly transformed into Rose, shattered the diamond quickly and then run away, then maybe there wasn't time to give "Rose" a good look.
Btw, look, I am not really defending these quick theories of mine. There is little to know evidence about them. My point is that I think you are jumping the gun by making assumptions. There more possibilities in play than the ones you delineated.
Exactly. These are not Scare Quotes. They are just quotes to show the word is not necessarely the best word for the situation.
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But does Garnet joining the Crystal Gems really make sense in terms of timeline? The rebellion began 6000 years ago. Garnet said that she first formed 5750 years ago, so 250 years into the rebellion.
But Zircon said that Rose Quartz had been known as a rebel for "several hundred years" when Pink Diamond was shattered. Would a mere 250 years really be considered several hundred? A few, sure, but several? It just doesn't seem to fit.
It's also vague...
Rogue...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.The way I assume the timeline is supposed to be, since Pearl said it lasted for 1000 years, is rebellion started 6000 years ago, they met Garnet around 5750 years ago, they met Bismuth sometime between meeting Garnet, and shattering Pink Diamond, and the war ended around 5000 years ago after Pink Daimond's shattering
From what Zircon said, I'm thinking maybe Rose wasn't considered a threat before she met Garnet, because that would account for why she was only a threat for "several hundred years" instead of the full 1000. Maybe she wasn't considered a threat until they started using different gem fusions as a battle tactic.
edited 2nd Jun '17 6:41:31 AM by xanderiskander
I put the first season up for the cats and man I should rewatch the early stuff more. Simpler timesss
Forever liveblogging the Avengers@50362 I don't think we can even make that level of assumption in the timeline. It's perfectly reasonable, for example, to say that Bismuth was already a Crystal Gem when Garnet first fused; she just wasn't there during Rose and Pearl's assault because she was busy with something else (a different mission, forging weapons, maybe occupying an earlier collection of guards so that Rose and Pearl could infiltrate Blue Diamond's court). We just have so little info about the rebellion that mapping out a timeline is nigh impossible.
For the prosecuting Zircon being yellow - huh. I mean, I was pretty certain that she served Yellow Diamond, but I thought she was naturally green. After all, Peridot's green and served YD back when she was loyal to Homeworld. And green zircons do develop naturally (the same way green diamonds do, in fact - exposure to uranium or other radioactive elements). Not that it matters too much either way, of course.
For the issue about what happened around Pink Diamond's shattering... thatother1dude more or less covers my thoughts. The gap in PD's security may be totally unrelated to any possible coverup of the specifics of her shattering - given that the Diamonds prefer to be seen as all-powerful, they have a personal vested interest in hiding the truth, even if they had absolutely nothing to do with the shattering. Yes, something more sinister may be at play, particularly with YD and how proactive she was with shutting down lines of conjecture about PD's shattering, but the simplest solution may still factor in, even if it isn't the whole story.
Also, as for whether or not there even is a cover-up... honestly, the best source for whether or not that's true would probably be Peridot. We don't know what the majority of Homeworld gems know or don't know about Pink Diamond's final days; particularly since they do apparently have some variety of justice system that's not just a Kangaroo Court, the Zircons presumably have greater information access than the average gem. Given that Peri was made to focus on something else completely, how much she knows about it would probably more greatly illustrate how much of a cover-up is going on.
Finally, completely on a different subject, related to the dimension in Lion's mane (and now Lars' hair) - did Steven ever think to get an oxygen tank and a breathing unit to be able to explore the area more fully? I mean, it's obviously not always practical to have that on hand, but it might help to get a better idea of just what's in there.
Reminder: Offscreen Villainy does not count towards Complete Monster.Not a bad idea, although it doesn't seem like the kind of thing Steven would think of.
Amethyst probably has one in her room.
Figured it'd make discussion easier if we had a map of what we know about the rebellion so far. As of now it's pretty bare-bones, but we can edit it and add to it as we learn more.
edited 2nd Jun '17 8:26:19 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!@unnkowing: Yeah, it's quite difficult to square Blue Diamond in the Answer with Blue Diamond in the Trial, Steven's Dream, and That Will Be All if Pink Diamond's shattering happened after the Answer, unless of course Pink Diamond's death was a genuine Break the Haughty moment for Blue.
edited 2nd Jun '17 10:24:50 AM by CaptainCapsase
I dunno. Seems simple with to me,. Less Break the Haughty and more trapped in grief. She's not that far removed from The Answer when Pink and Rose are taken out of the equation
edited 2nd Jun '17 10:54:25 AM by sgamer82

edited 1st Jun '17 6:04:48 PM by thatother1dude