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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50326: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:30:57 PM

Garnet: "I saw you come here, I saw Blue Diamond on Earth, I saw her see me and find all of us, I couldn't be here with you!"

Steven:"She took my dad! It's all my fault! I should've listened to you! What are we gonna do, Garnet?"

She didn't tell him, because she didn't want him to go out of curiosity to begin with, and it backfired, by making him even more curious.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:33:57 PM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50327: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:31:45 PM

[up][up][up][up]I hate that people are back to that, it makes no sense.

[up][up]Garnet said that if she went, Blue Diamond would see her, and discover them all.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:32:16 PM by LSBK

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#50328: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:32:42 PM

Knocking out another round of shatt's. 'Posed how for WHAT?!

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DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#50329: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:34:01 PM

I mean, that really was a massive fuck-up on Garnet's part if true. Steven wouldn't have gone there if he'd known Blue Diamond was there. Why did Garnet think he'd want to go there even more if she'd told him?

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#50330: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:43:52 PM

> Why would one of the other Diamonds sabotage Pink's security?

I don't think they did,I feel it's more likely that Pink was offered additional security but for whatever reason decided she didn't need it

> If neither Diamond was involved with the former, why would they cover it up?

i think it's because they don't want admit that they failed to protect her,it makes them look fallible when they have always projected the image of being infallible

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50331: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:44:14 PM

[up][up]I'm not so sure about that. I think he would have gone either way, seeing as how he was so insistent on learning the truth from somebody at the time, and how he sacrificed himself to Aquamarine later. Steven's kind of going through a rebellious phase.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:45:39 PM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50332: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:45:30 PM

I mean, he could just wait until after she left then. She just went there for one last visit, she wasn't going to stay forever.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50333: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:47:39 PM

Yeah, but I don't think he would have. He was feeling really impatient, and desperate. Him not being able to listen was the whole problem.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:48:34 PM by xanderiskander

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#50334: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:48:41 PM

I think they would have discovered him anyway even if he Greg hadn't revealed himself,gems also do have some ability to sense if another one is close by.

edited 1st Jun '17 3:50:55 PM by Ultimatum

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50335: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:07:31 PM

I found a pretty compelling argument that Pearl, not Rose, was the one who shattered Pink Diamond.
"You're making Pearl very upset." is the only one that kind of gets me. The rest I either already considered, or just think are weak-to-terrible.

The fact that the person is claiming these "hints" have been placed from the very beginning and that their theory is basically confirmed already hurts their credibility to me.
The first one is the worst. Even if Pearl refuses to shapeshift because of some traumatic incident, that in no way indicates a connection to Pink Diamond. Yes, Eyeball is stupid enough to fall for a differently-colored gem shapeshifted into Rose, but they don't even guess as to why Pearl would do that.

Things like that always come off as super confident, an they're always filled with things that can be interpreted as a myriad of different ways, despite their claims.
It can be pretty annoying to read these post where they pile up as much evidence as possible, even if some of it is vastly worse than others. The tone of this one almost infuriating. It's extremely wordy, yet much of it is facetiously explaining their obvious points, never bothering to address counter-arguments.

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#50336: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:17:25 PM

Well, this is embarrassing. I post something I thought was pretty neat and I come back to see the thread tearing it apart.

I mean, it sounded convincing the first time I read it, especially point G. The fact that Zircon placed so much emphasis on the last question ("And where was her Pearl?") seemed to suggest that the answer to that question would eventually be the key to unveiling the truth. From a storytelling perspective, anyway.

That, and I was pretty intrigued by the last point, that we know a lot about Garnet and Amethyst's backstories, but very little about Pearl's. I honestly hadn't considered that.

IDK. Maybe I'm just gullible.

edited 1st Jun '17 4:19:15 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50337: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:20:26 PM

[up]I can sympathize, I've been there before.

Whether Pearl was ever Pink Diamond's pearl, any connection she had to her would have been severed long before Pink was shattered.

Who Pearl belonged to is still probably going to be a big thing, but not necessarily in this new mystery.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50338: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:34:15 PM

I feel it's more likely that Pink was offered additional security but for whatever reason decided she didn't need it
Zircon emphasized that she would normally have a huge entourage/guard, but the official reports make it sound like no one saw Rose coming or tried to stop her.

I mean, he could just wait until after she left then.
Blue Diamond turned out to be what he was looking for. The palanquin only mattered as a landmark.

I mean, it sounded convincing the first time I read it, especially point G. The fact that Zircon placed so much emphasis on the last question ("And where was her Pearl?") seemed to suggest that the answer to that question would eventually be the key to unveiling the truth.
That, and I was pretty intrigued by the last point, that we know a lot about Garnet and Amethyst's backstories, but very little about Pearl's. I honestly hadn't considered that.
"Pearl worked for Pink Diamond" is a viable theory with decent things in its favor, both of those include.

My point was basically that the post didn't add much to the discussion: It was mostly the stuff that's been brought up a lot already (the pink diamond on Pearl's space suit, the stuff from the trial) and some considerably weaker evidence (we saw Pearl using a sword chronologically earlier than Rose, Pearl doesn't shapeshift, Pearl looked upset when Eyeball talked about Pink Diamond in front of Steven).

Whether Pearl was ever Pink Diamond's pearl, any connection she had to her would have been severed long before Pink was shattered.
Because Bismuth's backstory only make sense if she was bubbled before Pink Diamond was shattered, Garnet knew Bismuth, and Pearl was a Crystal Gem before Garnet.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50339: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:56:45 PM

And Pearl had a reputation for being a renegade. So with Pink being shattered after Bismuth it makes less sense for Pink to trust Pearl if they had a connection.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#50340: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:12:13 PM

We're assuming that the flashback in "The Answer" was early on in the Rebellion, because it was just Rose and Pearl. By that point Pearl was already a renegade, so she couldn't also be the Pearl Pink Diamond would have been employing at the time of her shattering. The only way for our Pearl to be responsible for Pink being shattered is if she were to impersonate Pink's Pearl (who may be our Pearl's replacement if we assume that our Pearl was originally Pink's Pearl, which is just an assumption,) to get close to Pink, then she would have had to transform into Rose when it actually came time to shatter Pink for Eyeball's eye-witness account to be at all accurate.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#50341: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:12:22 PM

Stupid Fan Theory: Pearl loves things that are pink. Pink Diamond was Pink. Ergo, Pearl had a huge crush on Pink Diamond, one which wasn't entirely one sided, and it was that connection that helped her (and Rose?) get close enough to Pink Diamond to come in for the kill.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#50342: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:13:46 PM

Does that mean she'll fall in love with Lars now?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50343: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:14:45 PM

Don't be silly, people can't make a bunch of lesbian jokes if that happens.

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#50344: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:15:33 PM

I mean, that really was a massive fuck-up on Garnet's part if true. Steven wouldn't have gone there if he'd known Blue Diamond was there. Why did Garnet think he'd want to go there even more if she'd told him?

It wouldn't be the first time Garnet had been so afraid of what might happen in a vision that she screwed up in trying to prevent it from taking place, especially where Steven's curiosity is involved.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#50345: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:21:58 PM

It seemed like she was assuming based on Steven's past actions...even if he says he'll listen, he'd still go.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50346: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:30:06 PM

Yesterday Rebecca Sugar did an interview with Verge, and today she did one with Polygon. She kind of says similar things in both because they're both mostly about Save the Light.

You know how Steven's TV/VCR sits on the floor in front of his bed? That's based on a summer break from college where Rebecca left a TV from her dorm on the floor of her parents' house, the real Steven plugged it in a hooked up an SNES, and they just left it there and played Link to the Past all summer.

Also, there was an idea for Attack the Light to have a Non-Standard Game Over similar to the one in Far Cry 4: if you kept the prism out of the light and give it to Garnet, the monsters never come out, the credits roll, and you're put down as having 100% Completion.

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#50347: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:48:42 PM

Well, this is embarrassing. I post something I thought was pretty neat and I come back to see the thread tearing it apart.

I feel ya, man.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50348: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:52:28 PM

Does that mean she'll fall in love with Lars now?
Second-hand pink doesn't count. Remember how much she hated Lion?

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#50349: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:57:37 PM

[up] When did she hate Lion?

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50350: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:58:17 PM

[up][up]Yeah, but Lion is a Lion. She was pretty smitten with Mystery girl.


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