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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50301: May 31st 2017 at 7:50:22 PM

It's just a minor thing, but I would have liked it if Lapis and Peridot were also with the others when they returned home to find that Steven was back.

edited 31st May '17 7:52:18 PM by LSBK

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#50302: May 31st 2017 at 7:51:50 PM

[up] Me as well. Though Perhaps Peridot was out trying to get the dropship Pearl mentioned working, seeing as she and Pearl would be the most qualified gems to do that kind of thing. Not sure where Lapis was.

edited 31st May '17 7:52:38 PM by CaptainCapsase

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50303: May 31st 2017 at 7:58:43 PM

If they told Lapis she might have tried to fly to homeworld again.

It's still unclear why she was able to do that when everyone else needs a ship that can warp reality, but at this point, I don't think they're ever going to explain it.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50304: May 31st 2017 at 8:10:09 PM

Peridot's absence is even weirder considering her Character Blog updated like a week ago after being silent for the entirety of the fourth season.

Granted, the post is "I JUST REMEMBERED STEVEN EXISTS", which in hindsight seems like a Lampshade Hanging of her not being there.

edited 31st May '17 8:11:20 PM by thatother1dude

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50305: May 31st 2017 at 8:12:49 PM

[up]The one about her remembering Steven exists? Maybe that tweet was meant as a joke about how they forgot they made that twitter.

edited 31st May '17 8:13:41 PM by xanderiskander

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50306: May 31st 2017 at 8:18:06 PM

The most likely explanation, even if it doesn't come up, is that the others couldn't find Peridot or Lapis for some reasons, and so Steven came back before the two ever knew he was gone.

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#50307: May 31st 2017 at 8:23:19 PM

I just want one episode of Peridot dealing with her involvement in this and feeling bad about it. Just one episode.

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Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#50308: May 31st 2017 at 8:46:01 PM

It's just a minor thing, but I would have liked it if Lapis and Peridot were also with the others when they returned home to find that Steven was back.

I agree, that would've been nice.

To tell you the truth, I sometimes feel like Peridot's not "truly" a member of the team. Nowadays it seems like she only interacts with Steven and Lapis. I liked "The Kindergarten Kid", but I also felt a little annoyed when it became clear that the rest of the Gems would be sitting on the sidelines, reducing the interaction to just Peridot and Steven.

I get that the Crewniverse tends to change the status quo in ways that will allow them to continue doing what they've always done, Peridot's residence at the barn being the most obvious example of that. But dang man, aren't we due a few episodes featuring the full roster of the team?

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#50309: May 31st 2017 at 9:04:50 PM

Also Steven Universe killed it in the ratings this Monday!

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#50310: May 31st 2017 at 9:05:48 PM

The show's due to changing up character interactions every now and again...

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Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#50311: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:20:33 AM

Saw the new episodes and they were fantastic. I loved everything that happened. This show is so great and I can't wait to see what happens next. I hope the great ratings means it will get renewed for a season six.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#50312: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:57:12 AM

Just so long as it doesn't go the way of The Simpsons or MLP...

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#50313: Jun 1st 2017 at 3:13:50 AM

This show has a story though...unless they want another Slice-of-life comedy on air after all the plot is done diddly dealt with.

Or they want the writers to drag out the plot for a loooooong while.

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RandomWriter413 Since: Feb, 2016
#50314: Jun 1st 2017 at 4:35:08 AM

Personally, I think Yellow had nothing to do with the incident, but she's impulsive enough to ignore the signs.

IE: The reason she poofed Blue Zircon wasn't due to the accusation, but due to the nature of the accusation being along the lines of "You totally murdered your own sister."

Also, Eyeball's testimony was excellent. tongue

Yellow Diamond's reaction was akin to that of a parent who knows the logic in said testimony/speech is flawed, but since it's their kid, they're clearly right.

That, and she wanted to execute Rose from the start.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#50315: Jun 1st 2017 at 5:30:29 AM

I feel like you really can't discount Zircon's reasoning here, not how the show depicts it. I think that YD had a motive to poof Zircon either way, but the way things are set up lends itself well to the idea that not all is well on Homeworld. I'm not quite sold that YD is culpable, but I think she knows more than she's letting on. Nor am I quite about WD either (seriously guys third act twist villain introductions never work well unless your name is David Fincher in 1995).

The show can run on a long time though. We're leading up to some sort of S5 clusterfuck explosion clearly, but that doesn't discount the possibility of the Crewniverse leaving some threads hanging for later seasons. A la, the Cluster is dealt with conclusively and at least one Diamond is dealt with completely, but we still haven't fixed corruption and now we have to deal with WD. In that manner I could see the show going for, say, 2 more seasons (so until S9 from the current season numbering system).

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#50316: Jun 1st 2017 at 7:16:22 AM

I've seen a theory floating around that said that Rose worked with White Diamond to shatter Pink. White arranged for Pink's entourage to not be with her, Rose poofed Pink, brought her gem to White Diamond, and White Diamond shattered it. Which I guess is an interesting idea. I can't really find the post right now. I'll link to it when I do.

ETA: Found it.

edited 1st Jun '17 7:16:59 AM by DeathsApprentice

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Sabertooth1000000000 Sabertooth from Land of the Livid Dead Since: Jul, 2010
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#50317: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:47:24 PM

This show doesn't have one single overarching plot. The main arc changes every once in a while. They could keep doing that for a while.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
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#50318: Jun 1st 2017 at 12:56:26 PM

I don't know if anyone's posted this, but today I found a pretty compelling argument that Pearl, not Rose, was the one who shattered Pink Diamond.

Here.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#50319: Jun 1st 2017 at 1:58:40 PM

[up]That doesn't strike me as particularly compelling, it's the same "whatifs" people have been doing forever, except applied to a different question. The fact that the person is claiming these "hints" have been placed from the very beginning and that their theory is basically confirmed already hurts their credibility to me.

Things like that always come off as super confident, an they're always filled with things that can be interpreted as a myriad of different ways, despite their claims.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:00:21 PM by LSBK

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#50320: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:21:42 PM

I feel like you really can't discount Zircon's reasoning here, not how the show depicts it.
Not without entirely negating her argument, which would make it narratively pointless.

There was clearly a deliberate hole in Pink Diamond's security and a coverup thereof. The former does not necessitate a Diamond's involvement (there could have been Bodyguard Betrayal or some other Reverse Mole), but the latter does.

So, putting aside Yellow vs White, or how much Rose was involved, I'm thinking of two questions:

  1. Why would one of the other Diamonds sabotage Pink's security?
  2. If neither Diamond was involved with the former, why would they cover it up?

Hopefully, Garnet or Pearl will clarify what they do know soon: If they saw Rose shattering Pink Diamond themselves, what weapon Rose supposedly did it with, if security was as easy to get through as Zircon claims. I'm not going to accept them withholding any more information unless there's a really personal reason behind it.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50321: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:21:45 PM

[up][up][up]Yeah, all of those points seem really forced to me.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:22:11 PM by xanderiskander

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#50322: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:25:29 PM

One thing I've been wondering about now is that in the episode where Steven first met Blue Diamond, Garnet seemed really insistent on preventing Steven from seeking out the Palanquin for some reason, like she was afraid he'd find something out. Why? Steven already knew about Pink Diamond's murder, and I don't suppose Garnet knew Blue Diamond would be there.

Steven never really investigated the place due to Greg being kidnapped when they got there. Do you think there was something there that might cast light on whatever piece is missing from the story, and that Garnet and Pearl have reason not to want Steven to see it?

shigmiya64 Somebody get this freaking duck away from me! from a settlement that needs our help, General Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
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#50323: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:26:27 PM

Maybe Rose IS Pink Diamond, somehow. Would explain why she had so many more different powers than any other gem shown so far.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#50324: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:26:55 PM

[up][up]She wasn't afraid of him finding something out. That was just Steven's impression, because she couldn't be clear about it. She was afraid of being exposed, and Steven didn't consider her seeing something with future vision.

edited 1st Jun '17 2:28:22 PM by xanderiskander

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#50325: Jun 1st 2017 at 2:28:34 PM

Exposed how? For what? If she knew there were homeworld gems there, why didn't she tell him?

edited 1st Jun '17 2:29:47 PM by DrDougsh


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