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I didn't say she didn't. Just that her relationship to Garnet seems much less likely to have been one of emotional dependence.
I'm pretty sure that Becky came out and said that Rose and Pearl definitely had a very close bond. Not quite the romantic relationship that Pearl wanted but not quite a completely one-sided affair either. It's complicated.
We haven't really seen much of Rose's interactions with Garnet and Amethyst. We have nothing to disprove the idea that Rose cared about them very deeply. All we know is that Amethyst was sort of the team kid/pet for a couple hundred years and Garnet was a sort of The Lancer to Rose.
Whelp, after having seen the bomb, I think that Rose being the true culprit has become less likely, if only because of the choice of weapon. Her sword was explicitly designed not to shatter gems, and while it is perfectly possible for her to have used a different sword, if she was going to use a weapon capable of shattering, why not just bring the Breaking Point? She had access to it, and it would have been perfect for the job, and yet she didn't use it. You can't even say that the writers forgot about it (as they often do across many series), since they explicitly refer to it through Steven.
An imposter using a weapon similar to the one that Rose was known to use makes a lot more sense, in addition to all the other signs pointing at an inside job.
Personally, I like the idea of "our" Pearl being the true culprit, having once been Pink Diamond's Pearl, but I'm not entirely sure about why she'd do so using Rose's form. I mean, Rose would probably be okay taking the guilt upon herself, but Pearl wouldn't have planned to do so in the first place.
BTW, did someone already make a meme along the lines of "Rose's sword can't melt steel beams"?
The difference is that crystal gem weapons were designed to poof them,this is the one weapon which is explicitly for shattering gems,and it was made by the crystal gems on purpose
I don't doubt Homeworld has worse gem weapons then Breaking point,like those flying sniper robots
> Ok so I have a off topic question but what would happen if a 15 kiloton nuclear weapon was set off in home world? Because I do know that most glass or gems will melt at around 1500-2000C and then the overpressure would crack or turn a gem into dust. Right?
A lot of innocent gems die and whoever does it is the worse person ever and definitely not a crystal gem
edited 31st May '17 3:50:33 PM by Ultimatum
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You don't need a special weapon to shatter a gem, but the Breaking Point must've been particularly good at it. Otherwise there wouldn't have been a point to it existing in the first place, or for Rose to be so shocked by it that she'd secretly poof and bubble one of her best lieutenants over it.
edited 31st May '17 3:51:09 PM by Kayeka
And yet we know the Breaking Point was still sealed away, but Garnet and Pearl didn't dispute it happened. You don't need a weapon to shatter a gem, Steven should know all of this so him assuming it was a probable scenario, or that they'd even know what the Breaking Point even is is weird.
Who said Bismuth was one of her best lieutenants? It being designed with it in mind is more than point than it's utility. It was a symbol of the direction that Bismuth wanted to go in, Rose disagreed, they fought, and the rest is history. I don't even think we know who started to fight, but my money would be on Bismuth then too.
The point being, saying wasn't Rose because she didn't use the Breaking Point is faulty logic, for numerous reasons. Maybe it wasn't Rose, but that's not a good basis for it.
edited 31st May '17 3:59:08 PM by LSBK
It's true that the Breaking Point was sealed away, but I don't think it's ever been stated (nor is there any real way to know) that it stayed that way. I don't think it's inconceivable that Rose could have sealed it away, then took it out again to shatter Pink, then put it back.
Oh God! Natural light!Bismuth was the only one who could get into her workshop. It sure seemed that way unless Rose just had some secret entrance that only she knew about for some reason.
And what would be the point in taking it out, and then putting it back there, if only two people know about it, one of which would have been bubbled at that point?
edited 31st May '17 4:01:07 PM by LSBK
I don't get why people talk as if Rose's sword physically cannot break gems. Like, twigs can pierce through metal if they fly fast enough. Unless Rose's sword is actually made of floppy rubber or foam, I have severe doubts you couldn't use it to damage a gemstone, if you really tried.
edited 31st May '17 4:05:46 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
But I will say, saying she shattered Pink with a sword, would be weird even if we didn't know what Rose's sword was made for. That's not typically something you would use any sword for.
Unless Blue was just conflating the entire deal with the shattering, and she meant Pink was poofed via sword then shattered. But that seems unlikely with the way things were phrased.
edited 31st May '17 4:06:39 PM by LSBK
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Perhaps she thought she might need it again, but didn't want it actively around?
I'm not saying that this happened (it obviously didn't) - I'm just providing an explanation for how Steven might have thought it possible (if indeed he did, and wasn't just coming up with an idea about the whole thing right there).
Question: could "shattering" only refer to literally shattering a Gem, or could it be a blanket term applied to any sort of damage that one could consider fatal (like slicing a Gem in two)?
edited 31st May '17 4:07:48 PM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!
Maybe. He was obviously making it up as he went along, so I guess that would explain some of the inconsistencies. Like expecting them to know what the Breaking Point is.
Edit: That's actually a good question, whenever it's been brought up it's only been in the literal sense, so who knows.
edited 31st May '17 4:11:46 PM by LSBK
I mean, Blue Diamond interrupted him right when he mentioned it, so it's possible he would have explained what it was if given the opportunity.
Oh God! Natural light!> could "shattering" only refer to literally shattering a Gem, or could it be a blanket term applied to any sort of damage that one could consider fatal (like slicing a Gem in two)
It seems like more blank term to describe the destruction of their gem,since gems can survive any sort of attack as long their physical stone remains intact,
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverThey also use the term "broken"...
Why not consider that?
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.Shattering isn't even the complete end of a gem, as we know from the crushed up gems in the paint possessing the together breakfast, from the gem shards that animated clothing, from the Gem Mutants and Cluster, and from the various items that are powered by gems, there's a sort of soul left behind in the pieces that can also be used as a power source. For all we know, a future arc could involve a psychotic speciest human hunting down all the shards of Pink Diamond's gem to create a doomsday weapon.
edited 31st May '17 5:36:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic
Well, the Gems are magical creatures, so I think it's up for debate how much actual physics apply to them. It could be the part of the properties of Rose's sword is that it was incapable of shattering gems, regardless of how it was used.
