Yellow's hatred of the Earth seemed too personal to just be about hating organic life.
Considering we just found out about this even saying something like "there are two possibilities" is narrowing things down way more than you should.
Right now I'd expect White Diamond to be involved more than anything, but even that has nothing really backing it up, and is more just a guess based on narrative convention and storytelling.
edited 30th May '17 1:00:38 PM by LSBK
Yeah, I've always wondered if we were meant to assume that the shattering happened after Bismuth was bubbled, because it would've been very strange for her not to mention that while arguing with Steven.
I've never been sure if Rose killing Pink Diamond kicked off the rebellion, or if it happened at the height of the war.
It feels weird to say, but I honestly have no personal theories regarding what happened with Pink Diamond. The idea that there was more to it than what we've been told kind of came out of left field, and I'm not sure what to make of the implications.
I will say that while I can understand it being a more complicated situation than we were led to believe, I would really not be okay with it being revealed that Rose wasn't actually the one who killed Pink. I think it adds a lot of nuance to Rose, and it would make all of the time Steven's spent trying to reconcile the ways people view his mother a waste.
I just don't see how it lines up with what we've seen of her so far. YD blowing up the planet out of anger and a desire to punish that planet that took her sister away makes sense considering how YD copes. Her doing the same to destroy what's likely a tiny amount of evidence in the grand scheme of things makes far less sense.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.Yellow Diamond certainly doesn't care for organics, but the way she acted when Peridot suggested preserving Earth really makes me think that Earth's destruction is personal for her.
I would also have trouble swallowing the idea that the sole reason she's hellbent on destroying Earth is simply to cover up a conspiracy.
Yeah. If Earth'd destruction isn't personal than you think she'd take over the planet and set up more kindergartens.
edited 30th May '17 1:07:04 PM by RhymeBeat
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.People can just be assholes, but she hasn't been shown to just be an asshole in this regard.
We're basing this off of what we've seen, while there's nothing to indicate that Pink Diamond was ever sympathetic to the rebellion. You're jumping to conclusion with that.
Edit: Even if it was just about hating organic life she wouldn't have to destroy the Earth completely. If they went back to the old plans, all life on the planet would be destroyed anyway, and they'd get valuable resources. The options weren't "go with Peridot's plans or let the Cluster awaken".
edited 30th May '17 1:11:09 PM by LSBK
Yeah, I'm with Austin on this. It seems kinda silly that she'd be so adamant about the destruction of Earth just because of a prejudice towards organic life.
"The Cluster will be seen to completion, and the Earth will be destroyed. This is not up for debate. I've made my position final."
"But why, my diamond? Why does this matter to you so much?"
"Because organic life is icky."
"But my diamond-"
"ICKY!"
edited 30th May '17 1:12:22 PM by TyeDyeWildebeest
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!And they specifically place Garnet meeting them 5750 years ago. I guess that rules out Pearl being Pink Daimond's Pearl? Because the show seems to imply Pearl was rogue a long while before that, and was building a reputation. So she wouldn't have been able to get close to Pink Diamond any easier than Rose in that case.
edited 30th May '17 1:15:24 PM by xanderiskander
Peridot just has a highly logical personality and didn't seem interested in non-work activities.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.It sounded more like Topaz always had those emotions and was just forced to hide them.
By the way, I liked getting to see how the "purge" that Jasper mentioned works, with not fitting in. And good to know that Ruby and Sapphire aren't the only gems into fusing with gems of other types, they were just the only ones lucky enough to not be stuck on Homeworld, it seems.
Depends on the gem. From my observation, there are some classes of gems who have the liberty to express a wider range of emotions than others- like Agates and Zircons, for instance.
No beer?! But if there's no beer, then there's no beef or beans!edited 30th May '17 1:37:06 PM by thatother1dude
I have always wondered about that moment. It's possible that Lapis was freaked out by their new technology, but the way she was acting always led me to believe that whatever Homeworld was like during the Rebellion, it's even worse now.
That may very well be.
I think Yellow's motive for carrying out a hit on Pink is prejudice ,It's unlikely that Pink was supporting any of rebellion,but the fact that she tolerated their existence in zoo probably made Yellow have some sort of contempt for her,plus all those resources coming from the Earth being used to create really over powered gems like the rose quartzes was in her mind incredibly wasteful,especially when they were basically caretakers for the zoo humans
Or Yellow arranged the hit because she was Just Following Orders.
edited 30th May '17 1:43:34 PM by Ultimatum
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverYou know, I said the Lion-Lars Intergalactic Hairway is gonna be used way less than it logically should for the sake of the Rule of Drama, but I'd love to be proven wrong.
Like, they could easily let Lars' friends and family visit him or the off-colors visit Earth. Wouldn't need to be even be something an episode was based around, just something known to happen.
I'm imagining a scene in the future where Lars finds out he's been gone way longer than he thought because becoming The Needless and being on an alien planet (which may have a radically different day/night cycle, not that he could tell when he's so far underground) has completely destroyed his long-term sense of time.
On a related note, I just remembered that Steven pointed out how he couldn't breathe while in Lion's mane. I wonder if that will ever get a specific reason, or if these new discoveries about Lion hint at it.
edited 30th May '17 2:24:01 PM by thatother1dude

If I had to guess for Yellow's motives: Pink might've been willing to turn in support of the rebellion. Yellow got wind of it and masterminded a plan where Pink would be vulnerable to being attacked by Rose.
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