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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#49901: May 29th 2017 at 6:10:13 PM

@JBC: If it turns out that Pink was betrayed by Yellow or White Diamond (or even both), that's an interesting enough twist that I'd be willing to remove the moral complexity that Rose killing her brings to the plot, assuming it's handled well.

On another note, Blue Diamond was surprisingly reasonable during this bomb, despite the promo making her out to be extremely scary.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#49902: May 29th 2017 at 6:11:11 PM

[up][up][up]That's not a bad thing...

[up]BD being the level-headed one seemed like it would be obvious...but her emotions still aren't in check.

edited 29th May '17 6:12:21 PM by randomness4

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49903: May 29th 2017 at 6:12:17 PM

I'm waiting for someone to make the JFK comparisons: "There was a second swordsGem! There, on the grassy knoll!"

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49904: May 29th 2017 at 6:13:53 PM

I'm glad for once that we didn't know what the next episodes are even called, because that might have given away what direction Wanted went in. But with the way it ended—they could put the events on the backburner, you just hope they don't—I'm desperate to have any idea of what the next episode is going to be.

Like I really hope the next episode, if not advancing the plot, will be a "Full Disclosure"/"Log Date 7 15 2"-style Dénouement Episode (though probably somewhat darker) where Steven has to explain that a human from Beach City was abducted, was radically transformed (and technically died), and they have no idea when or if he'll be back.

Although I guess Steven could bring people through the mane to visit. Hmm... for some reason, I expect that not to happen.

edited 29th May '17 6:14:42 PM by thatother1dude

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#49905: May 29th 2017 at 6:13:53 PM

Wanted was several things.

Thoughts about those things:

I didn't expect Topaz's voice to sound like that. I like it, though.

I think Zircon came to the wrong conclusion, but she did raise a few good points.

Who was there when Rose shattered Pink? Eyeball says she saw it, but did anyone else? Where are they, then?

So Blue has empathy powers. That explains why Steven why crying then, but not now. I think.

Wait, if Yellow can do the destabilize-y thing, then what powers the destabilizers? Bits of her own energy?

I'm glad that they're showing that there can and are other love Fusions. I'm not sure how to describe it, but it's nice to know. Speaking of which, Rhodonite's the Fusion of a Ruby and a Pearl, right?

@ thatother1dude regarding Steven not using his healing powers: Steven's emotions effect his powers. He was probably to distraught to even think about using them. Unrelated, but I thought the giant building was about Pink when I saw it.

So Lars is like, half dead now? Guess we have an idea of how Lion came to be. wild mass guess As I side note, now I'm thinking that the way Rose accessed her healing powers got swapped with Steven: While he heals with his spit and revives with his tears, Rose healed with her tears and revived with her spit. wild mass guess

edited 29th May '17 6:16:53 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#49906: May 29th 2017 at 6:14:54 PM

@Randomness: I mean, it wouldn't have been obvious prior to Steven's Dream, and various commentators were speculating that we'd get to see her vicious side again in the Trial.

edited 29th May '17 6:15:53 PM by CaptainCapsase

Lionheart0 Since: Oct, 2009 Relationship Status: I'm just a hunk-a, hunk-a burnin' love
#49907: May 29th 2017 at 6:15:07 PM

One little detail I actually liked about this last episode is how Steven kept making sure to ask Lars' permission before trying to test out the portal in his head. A couple of seasons ago he would've just went for it and Lars would have reacted predictably.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49908: May 29th 2017 at 6:15:46 PM

Can't they just have Lion open a portal to get Lars back or am I not thinking that through?

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
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#49909: May 29th 2017 at 6:15:59 PM

I joked that White Diamond is probably Queen of the Space Pirates with how much impact she has on Homeworld. But now I actually want to see that.

edited 29th May '17 6:16:14 PM by BlueBlaze64

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#49910: May 29th 2017 at 6:16:16 PM

[up][up] Possibly, but we don't know if Lion's portals can go all the way to homeworld.

edited 29th May '17 6:16:27 PM by CaptainCapsase

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49911: May 29th 2017 at 6:16:42 PM

Guess we have an idea of how Lion came to be.
Steven all but said what this meant Lion was—a lion that died and Rose brought Back from the Dead. The question is how it happened.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#49912: May 29th 2017 at 6:17:36 PM

They need to get a HW ship...

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Strontiumsun A Gamma Moth from Chicago Since: May, 2015
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#49913: May 29th 2017 at 6:18:12 PM

My personal theory is that Pearl did it. She'd do anything for Rose, right? It was Rose's idea but Pearl did it. That's why she cried so much in "Back To The Moon" when Eyeball brought up PD's murder. Whether or not that would ruin some plot thread, I don't really care, I think it's a cool theory XD

These episodes were good! The Trial was my favorite, because I love lawyer stories and I liked Blue Pearl's drawings during the trial. Hahaha.

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#49914: May 29th 2017 at 6:19:54 PM

[up][up][up] That's what I meant. I wonder how he died, though. Was he trying to protect Rose/his pride, or did he just die from old age/starvation/thirst/other natural causes?

edited 29th May '17 6:20:01 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49915: May 29th 2017 at 6:21:20 PM

In completely different news, "Lars' Head" introduced a new storyboard artist (that isn't Amber Rogers/Cragg): Madeline Queripel

Also, all four episodes had not-seen-before storyboard teams: solo Zuke, Villeco/Mitroff, Abrams/Liu, Liu/Queripel

This raises a few production question: Did Molisee's last episode already air? Did Florido leave as well or just skip a four-pack of episodes like Zuke did in the middle of season three?

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#49916: May 29th 2017 at 6:23:07 PM

I like how this arc was done, but at the same time...man, I'm panging for some more focus on the original Crystal Gems.

I read a discussion earlier about how Amethyst's character development seems to be completed. That makes sense, but we've spent so much time exploring the Gem's issues that it feels weird to think of them as being resolved now. I hope they give the Gems some significant focus in upcoming episodes, whatever the plots are.

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#49917: May 29th 2017 at 6:25:49 PM

[up][up] Dang, I didn't even notice her name.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49918: May 29th 2017 at 6:25:52 PM

My personal theory is that Pearl did it. She'd do anything for Rose, right? It was Rose's idea but Pearl did it. That's why she cried so much in "Back To The Moon" when Eyeball brought up PD's murder. Whether or not that would ruin some plot thread, I don't really care, I think it's a cool theory XD

Maybe Rose meant to do it, but couldn't go through with it at the last minute? And Pearl stepped in.

Did Hynden Walch voice the twins?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49919: May 29th 2017 at 6:26:59 PM

Did Hynden Walch voice the twins?
It's Ashly Burch—she mentioned a few months ago doing voice work for Steven Universe. Now we know who.

edited 29th May '17 6:27:44 PM by thatother1dude

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#49920: May 29th 2017 at 6:29:45 PM

Well now we know what the deal with Lion is.

When Zircon was going on her tirade and started talking about "Pink's Pearl" I thought for a second that we were going to find out that OUR Pearl used to be Pink Diamond's Pearl and that she was responsible for getting Pink alone an vulnerable. I doubt that's what happened, but for a second there it sounded like that's where they were going.

It seems like one of the Diamonds, definitely not Blue though, arranged for Pink to be alone by herself, and thus vulnerable to an attack by Rose. I had thought it was a battle prior to this, but now it definitely seems like more of an assassination. I'm sure one of the Diamonds arranged for Pink to be alone, but there also exists the possibility that she told Rose where and when Pink would be alone.

Are we in for a long hiatus now? I don't think there have been announcements regarding the next batch of episodes.

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#49921: May 29th 2017 at 6:30:18 PM

[up][up] That was her?

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#49922: May 29th 2017 at 6:33:12 PM

So is it just me, or is Blue Diamond looking increasingly redeemable with the implication that Pink Diamond was betrayed by one of her "sisters."

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49923: May 29th 2017 at 6:33:25 PM

That was her?
Assuming "the twins" refers to the Conjoined Twins gem I couldn't understand the name of, not Topaz, Zircon, or any other gem we saw a pair of.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49924: May 29th 2017 at 6:34:35 PM

It's Ashly Burch—she mentioned a few months ago doing voice work for Steven Universe. Now we know who.
I immediately recognized her voice, but I completely forgot she tweeted about it. I just got out of playing Horizon Zero Dawn so it was fresh on my mind.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49925: May 29th 2017 at 6:37:57 PM

It seems like one of the Diamonds, definitely not Blue though, arranged for Pink to be alone by herself, and thus vulnerable to an attack by Rose. I had thought it was a battle prior to this, but now it definitely seems like more of an assassination. I'm sure one of the Diamonds arranged for Pink to be alone, but there also exists the possibility that she told Rose where and when Pink would be alone.

wild mass guessIt's Yellow's fault, but only by accident. She was supposed to meet with Pink away from the help, got held up, and Rose took advantage. She secretly blames herself for her sister's death, and is terrified Blue will find out.

Assuming "the twins" refers to the Conjoined Twins gem I couldn't understand the name of, not Topaz, Zircon, or any other gem we saw a pair of.

Yeah, that's who I meant. I forgot about Topaz.

edited 29th May '17 6:38:57 PM by JBC31187


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