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OrionAurora Constellation from Andromeda Galaxy Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: Abstaining
Constellation
#49851: May 29th 2017 at 5:06:26 PM

So how long will it be before Steven realizes Lars has Aku's Lion's powers? If Lion can create wormholes at will, so can Lars, right?

We are all made of star stuff. Very, very weird star stuff.
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#49852: May 29th 2017 at 5:07:41 PM

Huh now wonder Gems are against fusions.

Seriously she's a nice Gem & all but by God does Fluorite look freaky.

Goes to show you that there really is too much of a good thing.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#49853: May 29th 2017 at 5:09:33 PM

I'm convinced: The showrunners have no idea what to do with White Diamond.

Actually, I noticed something interesting - when Blue and Yellow Pearl showed up, they appeared in blue and yellow light...and where the lights overlapped, it was white.

Not sure if that means anything, but one could take it as evidence for the "White Diamond is a fusion" theory.

Also, that building that showed up in the background (and also in the titles cards for the latter two episodes) looked a lot like what we've seen of White Diamond.

Oh God! Natural light!
BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#49854: May 29th 2017 at 5:10:33 PM

[up][up][up] Lion's wormholes were more short range. It was a considerable effort just to get to the moon. So I don't think he could go to Earth from Homeworld.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#49855: May 29th 2017 at 5:11:02 PM

So how long will it be before Steven realizes Lars has Aku's Lion's powers? If Lion can create wormholes at will, so can Lars, right?

Sure, but even Lion can't worm from Homeworld to Earth and he's been doing it for years.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#49856: May 29th 2017 at 5:12:12 PM

Please don't immediately go back to filler.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49857: May 29th 2017 at 5:13:28 PM

Lars is the hero Homeworld needs.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#49858: May 29th 2017 at 5:16:58 PM

There's already a theory that Pearl killed Pink Diamond and Rose took the fall.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
GreatT HOT DOG Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
HOT DOG
#49859: May 29th 2017 at 5:17:47 PM

@slim Fluorite DOES have that look where's she one hookah away from being a walking reference to a piece of literature. Too much of a good thing isn't good, indeed.

Despite how slow she seemed though, she did seem to be agile to the point of avoiding those drones.

When you wish upon a side of beef, soon will come an end to all your grief
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49860: May 29th 2017 at 5:20:31 PM

I think it might be bluff on the show's part. [Yellow] didn't shatter her, she's just that offended by the accusation.

I really hope they don't make Yellow responsible for Pink's demise. That would be a total cop-out. Part of Steven and Rose's relationship is based on her having to do terrible things, and Steven coming to terms with them. Also, every Gem, Crystal or otherwise, has been going around saying that Rose did it. It'd be weird if all of them were telling the same lie.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49861: May 29th 2017 at 5:22:09 PM

If Yellow Diamond did it do you really think anyone is going to want to be the snitch that told on her?

edited 29th May '17 5:22:42 PM by xanderiskander

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49862: May 29th 2017 at 5:26:08 PM

So either that was a huge statue or White Diamond is Primus. Dammit, I should have mentioned that theory earlier!

I really hope they don't make Yellow responsible for Pink's demise.
All Zircon's argument suggests is that Rose had someone on the inside. They could both be responsible—if not an actual conspiracy, then Yellow Diamond could have made a hole in her security.

There's already a theory that Pearl killed Pink Diamond and Rose took the fall.
Hmm... but then was Ruby and Sapphire defection after Pink Diamond was shattered?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#49863: May 29th 2017 at 5:26:10 PM

Rose was already established as a criminal before Pink's shattering, Yellow probably framed Rose because she was already a rebel to Homeworld and attracting support from the other Gems. Maybe Pink was actually willing to talk with Rose and listen and Yellow wasn't having any of it. Thus, frame-up.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#49864: May 29th 2017 at 5:26:25 PM

If any of the Diamonds are responsible I'm calling White Diamond. Yellow Diamond destroying Earth out of anger and grief at PD's death makes sense at least emotionally speaking. Yellow Diamond destroying an entire planet to hide a really small amount of evidence makes far less sense. Notably WD didn't show up at the trial at all, which is really suspect. If Steven really was Rose she'd be able to reveal the real culprit.

Even still this leads to the question of why Rose didn't correct the Crystal Gems about who the real murderer was.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49865: May 29th 2017 at 5:27:14 PM

Yeah, but Eyeball stuck to the story even when she was trapped in a bubble with "Rose." I mean, I guess their memories could have been altered, but why would Rose tell Garnet and Pearl the same story?

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#49866: May 29th 2017 at 5:27:25 PM

I don't think it was Yellow, because even she was upset at the death of Pink Diamond. I have a feeling it might have been the not mentioned yet White Diamond. Now we need to know why White Diamond hasn't been seen, and maybe with her being the highest authority she order the death of Pink Diamond.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49867: May 29th 2017 at 5:32:06 PM

I'm not sure I want it to be White, either, unless she provided Rose with the opportunity. It feels like cheating.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49868: May 29th 2017 at 5:32:16 PM

I'm pretty sure White Diamond is just what happens when Diamonds fuse at this point. The fact that when the yellow and blue lights merge it becomes white, seems like a pretty deliberate hint.

edited 29th May '17 5:32:41 PM by xanderiskander

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#49869: May 29th 2017 at 5:32:41 PM

...Maybe there's something weird going one with White - like, no one can remember her (or at least, no Gem can), except perhaps the Diamonds?

[up][up] With the information we've received, what wouldn't be cheating?

edited 29th May '17 5:33:20 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49870: May 29th 2017 at 5:35:44 PM

Narrative-speaking, I think Zircon pointing to Yellow Diamond makes her a much less likely suspect.

Eyeball stuck to the story even when she was trapped in a bubble with "Rose." I mean, I guess their memories could have been altered, but why would Rose tell Garnet and Pearl the same story?
If Eyeball is part of a frameup, she could just be Believing Their Own Lies. She was being weirdly vague during the trial—why did Blue Diamond have to ask Steven for more details?

That said, until there's evidence that Eyeball is an Unreliable Expositor, I'm assuming her testimony was accurate.

With the information we've received, what wouldn't be cheating?
Rose really did shatter Pink Diamond, but the surrounding events are more complicated than "Rose went Straight for the Commander and succeeded".

edited 29th May '17 5:36:34 PM by thatother1dude

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#49871: May 29th 2017 at 5:35:51 PM

She's got her own mural at the moonbase, though. And she's still on all the Homeworld sigils- old and new alike.

Also, I really like how they didn't make Lars's resurrection feel cheap. Yeah, he came back almost instantly, but he's trapped on an alien planet, he's got a pocket dimension in his head, and he's pink. Still plenty of trauma!

Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#49872: May 29th 2017 at 5:36:30 PM

I think the "Rose is Pink Diamond" theory is regaining some ground

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#49873: May 29th 2017 at 5:38:24 PM

She's got her own mural at the moonbase, though. And she's still on all the Homeworld sigils- old and new alike.

It'd be like a Weirdness Censor - your mind is incapable of acknowledging their existence.

Rose really did shatter Pink Diamond, but the surrounding events are more complicated than "Rose went Straight for the Commander and succeeded".

See, that just sounds like an anti-climactic resolution to these, unless that chain of events has some very big revelations of its own.

edited 29th May '17 5:39:29 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49874: May 29th 2017 at 5:38:26 PM

Also, I really like how they didn't make Lars's resurrection feel cheap.
My only complaint is that Steven didn't try the healing spit first. I get the point was that Steven thought Lars was too heavily injured, but he should have tried.

Still plenty of trauma!
It's an interesting Emergency Transformation.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#49875: May 29th 2017 at 5:39:38 PM

I'm still waiting for them to turn it around and Rose somehow actually is Pink Diamond because mind swapping. It's the only reason she should be able to bring the dead back to life and give them actual superpowers. They're trying to be all like "hahaha how could you losers think Rose was Pink Diamond what a bunch of maroons" but I'm waiting for them to twist back to the original twist.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.

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