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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49651: May 24th 2017 at 6:09:46 PM

Also if Steven and Lars fuse I guess their fusion name would probably be "Stars"?

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#49652: May 24th 2017 at 6:09:54 PM

HOLY SHIT IS THAT PRINCESS CAROLYN. I'M SO FUCKING READY FOR MOONSTONE.

edited 24th May '17 6:11:25 PM by InAnOdderWay

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#49653: May 24th 2017 at 6:15:03 PM

> Also if Steven and Lars fuse I guess their fusion name would probably be "Stars"?

Or Stella,or Larven..really there so many names!

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#49655: May 24th 2017 at 6:18:38 PM

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edited 24th May '17 6:19:22 PM by MorningStar1337

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#49656: May 24th 2017 at 6:21:56 PM

Okay, calming down now, curious as to the voice actress. I jumped immediately to Amy Sedaris, but someone else also brought up Holly Hunter (played the Senator in Batman v. MAAAARTHA, Elastigirl in The Incredibles), and that's probably more accurate.

edited 24th May '17 6:24:51 PM by InAnOdderWay

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49657: May 24th 2017 at 6:23:04 PM

I actually find the idea that Steven would fuse with Lars (or Greg) unlikely just because the resulting fusion by all rights would just be straight up male, and I get the impression they don't actually want to do that. It goes along with the no "male" gems thing.

edited 24th May '17 6:27:03 PM by LSBK

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#49658: May 24th 2017 at 6:25:40 PM

[up] You know that's kinda weird, and really dumb, but I could 100% see that being the reason why.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49659: May 24th 2017 at 6:26:34 PM

But Steven's a male gem. I don't see why a masculine fusion would be a problem. I don't see them being against it just to enforce One-Gender Race.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49660: May 24th 2017 at 6:27:51 PM

Yes, and they've said Steven is the only "male" gem and that there are no others, and it very much seems like they want to keep it that way.

edited 24th May '17 6:28:53 PM by LSBK

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#49661: May 24th 2017 at 6:28:02 PM

They should have an exception for that circumstance...

edited 24th May '17 6:28:30 PM by randomness4

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#49662: May 24th 2017 at 6:29:38 PM

[up][up] But having it be a Fusion with Steven as one of the components wouldn't count, I don't think.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49663: May 24th 2017 at 6:32:00 PM

Why not, as far we can tell Stevonnie and Smokey Quartz aren't as explicitly female as the other fusions are, because of him.

I don't see why this wouldn't count. I don't necessarily have a problem with it either way, this is just my impression of their reasoning of the matter.

Maybe it will happen.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49664: May 24th 2017 at 6:33:47 PM

Yes, and Steven is explicitly supposed to be the only one like himself, and they've said there are no others.
"Supposed to be?" Yeah, because he's the only half human gem that can be that way? Rebecca and co always talk about the show at the level of info we currently know. If a fusion like that is going to happen at some point it's not like they're going to talk about it before it does.

edited 24th May '17 6:34:26 PM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49665: May 24th 2017 at 6:36:50 PM

This goes beyond a specific fusion and more just a general element about the show.

Maybe it wouldn't "count" to them, but seeing how these things have been treated so far I'm not sure why not. Or they could change their mind. I'm just giving my impression off how things currently seem and they're previous statements.

edited 24th May '17 6:37:59 PM by LSBK

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#49666: May 24th 2017 at 6:44:12 PM

Basically right now the idea of the Gems as an all female race that tilts the gender balance of the primary cast way over to female characters is as much a stylistic choice by Sugar as it is a statement/attempt to work against the idea of "male as default gender" that's dug its way deep into pop culture. That being said, fusions are weird and different. I think that both Smokey Quartz and Stevonnie, despite not really having a gender, are definitely both female-presenting, and that's really important to note.

I don't really think Stars would break that though. Because of how small the pool of Steven-male fusions are (it's basically Lars and Greg, that's it), fusions and gems would still be overwhelmingly female-presenting. It would also imo help break the idea that fusion is just a thinly worded metaphor for sex by showing Steven fuse with a 100% friend and parent respectively (I mean technically Smokey Quartz should have disproved that but I digress).

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49667: May 24th 2017 at 6:51:37 PM

I mean, Stevonnie isn't really a metaphor for sex either.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49668: May 24th 2017 at 6:54:16 PM

Yeah a Steven/Lars fusion would be more human than not. I agree that the purpose of the Gems being all-female with the exception of Steven is more about providing a Watsonian justification for combating Western media's tendency for androcentrism. Now that we have established all these female Gems a Steven/Lars fusion wouldn't go against that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49669: May 24th 2017 at 6:56:19 PM

The fusion as sex (or rather always/only as sex) thing never made sense when looking at a lot of the relationships between the fusing characters anyway. That didn't stop people from seeing it that way with all the characters.

I remember someone here mentioning they were creeped out by Smokey Quartz because of that.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49670: May 24th 2017 at 6:57:04 PM

The thing is I don't think they've ever spoken of it as a rule or element or whatever. When they've spoken about this it's been about it just being the facts of gems as they are currently. It's doubtful they'd have another person like Steven running around, obviously, but fusions resulting from Steven being a part of it wouldn't be that out there.

Especially since fusions weren't really part of the question when they were talking about it.

edited 24th May '17 7:04:41 PM by xanderiskander

DeanCole Since: Jun, 2015
#49671: May 24th 2017 at 7:10:48 PM

'It would also imo help break the idea that fusion is just a thinly worded metaphor for sex by showing Steven fuse with a 100% friend'

Or it will encourage people to start shipping Steven and Lars.You can't really control people's interpretations.

edited 24th May '17 7:11:07 PM by DeanCole

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49672: May 24th 2017 at 7:15:53 PM

The anti-shippers will have a field day with that one.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#49673: May 24th 2017 at 7:16:06 PM

Alone Together has a lot of sexual connotations to it. It's part metaphor for puberty, yes, but there are definitely elements of sex in it as well. I mean obviously it isn't straight up a metaphor for sex, because Steven's like 15 (and honestly mentally closer to 12 or 13 with some sufficient degree of mental trauma) and Connie's like 12, but it's there to some degree.

Fusion IS a metaphor for sex, it's just also a metaphor for a lot of things that aren't sex. It's just natural that the embodiment of intimacy between two willing participants as a way to deepen their relationship with each other will have some overlap with irl sexual acts. It's just that we tend to see fusion in romantic contexts due to how things just line up.

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#49674: May 24th 2017 at 7:27:27 PM

He was 13 at the time...

edited 24th May '17 7:28:15 PM by randomness4

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#49675: May 24th 2017 at 7:29:16 PM

Wondering what Moonstones do. Obvious they have some role in Homeworld's legal system.

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