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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#49326: May 15th 2017 at 1:24:56 AM

That's why I hope this bomb doesn't end with the Diamonds letting Steven go.

I want Steven to not only save Lars, but realize that he is not responsible for Rose's actions, and nothing he does is going to cause the Diamonds to offer clemency. IMO, he'll realize what kind of people they are when they go to kill Lars just to hurt him. He may also let is slip that the Cluster is bubbled. And the Diamonds vow to just unbubble it. Perhaps they'll make him watch. They laugh (or maybe just a refined chuckle) when he tries to make a deal to protect Earth and the Crystal Gems. Nothing Steven plans for goes right, and in many ways, makes it worse. No sympathy for Rose or Earth, or the Crystal Gems. Just a Kangaroo Court that either laughs at him or gets furious with him.

edited 15th May '17 1:37:32 AM by SilentColossus

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#49327: May 15th 2017 at 4:52:58 AM

I wouldn't mind it White Diamond offered clemency. She's enough of a wild card right now since we don't have info on her they she could pull something like that.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#49328: May 15th 2017 at 6:44:11 AM

I could see White Diamond doing that if she realized Steven isn't actually Rose, but rather a human-gem hybrid. Maybe. He's still a Crystal Gem, after all. In the best case scenario he'd end up at the Zoo, but if they discover he has already escaped once, I don't see that happening.

I wonder how Steven and Lars will return to Earth. Hijack a ship? Be returned there by Homeworld forces? Be rescued by the Crystal Gems?

Also, what happened to the Galaxy Warp after all the Peridot and Lapis business there?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49329: May 15th 2017 at 7:33:37 AM

Also, what happened to the Galaxy Warp after all the Peridot and Lapis business there?
It's still broken with only Homeworld having the means to repair it—which they won't bother with unless they find out the Cluster isn't hatching.

Blueeyedrat Since: Oct, 2010
#49330: May 15th 2017 at 7:45:12 AM

I wouldn't mind it White Diamond offered clemency. She's enough of a wild card right now since we don't have info on her they she could pull something like that.
I could see White Diamond doing that if she realized Steven isn't actually Rose, but rather a human-gem hybrid. Maybe. He's still a Crystal Gem, after all.

I still think it'd be interesting to see a Diamond who isn't actively antagonistic towards Steven, even if they're still villainous overall. I can see something like this play out, if Steven tries to convince them that he's a separate entity from Rose Quartz:

  • Blue Diamond doesn't buy it, and wants him punished for what Rose did.
  • Yellow Diamond is willing to believe him, but still wants him punished for what he did to her geoweapon.
  • White Diamond is also willing to believe him, and considers him an "interesting specimen" who warrants further study.

edited 15th May '17 7:46:04 AM by Blueeyedrat

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49331: May 15th 2017 at 8:46:33 AM

I think White Diamond will end up being the worst of the lot with a complete lack of empathy that even Yellow Diamond has.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49332: May 15th 2017 at 9:05:26 AM

White Diamond is also willing to believe him, and considers him an "interesting specimen" who warrants further study.
Possibly very interesting.

Funnily enough, back when "The Return" first aired, we were left to assume Jasper wanted to take Steven to Yellow Diamond to find out what the hell he was. In hindsight, it seems it was more about bringing Pink Diamond's killer to face judgement.

I think White Diamond will end up being the worst of the lot with a complete lack of empathy that even Yellow Diamond has.
What empathy Yellow Diamond has compelled her to blow up Earth, killing billions and throwing away resources her people desperately needed, to avenge the one she loved. Can you claim that necessarily gives her a moral high ground against someone who's just a total sociopath?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#49333: May 15th 2017 at 9:13:27 AM

Because the Jasper Gem said "...Rose Quartz takes full priority!" that's not what I was assuming at all.

Also, I don't really remember seeing anyone ever bringing that up.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49334: May 15th 2017 at 9:20:36 AM

My guess as to why White Diamond doesn't get much attention, assuming she's not a fusion, is that she's currently responsible for intelligence, and scouting for new planets to conquer, and is either reclusive or so busy conquering planets that she's rarely present on homeworld, or both.

One reason being the only corrupted gem we've seen, that might be part her of court, the Island adventure gem, has cloaking powers. Makes me think that her court is responsible for things like scouting, intelligence, and black ops. Another reason I think this is she seemed to have the most star systems under her mural, which might mean she spends the most time creating new colonies, instead of handling affairs at home.

Would also give them a reason to create Pink Diamond in the first place, if she spends so much time colonizing, Pink could have taken some of White Diamond's work load.

edited 15th May '17 9:28:16 AM by xanderiskander

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49335: May 15th 2017 at 9:32:37 AM

the only corrupted gem we've seen, that might be part her of court, the Island adventure gem
What reasons is there to think she worked for White Diamond? Her gem is blue.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49336: May 15th 2017 at 9:35:41 AM

I always saw it as a white gem, with blue shading.

Either way there being the most planets under WD's mural still counts for something.

edited 15th May '17 9:39:17 AM by xanderiskander

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#49337: May 15th 2017 at 9:50:39 AM

I think that Centipeetle might have been part of White Diamond's court, if only because their hair looks similar.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49338: May 15th 2017 at 9:55:51 AM

That might make sense. We also didn't get to see Centi's insignia, when she was semi-corrupted, because her chest was covered in tatters.

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#49339: May 15th 2017 at 10:17:43 AM

It's worth remembering that during The Answer, where everyone is reduced to a primary defining colour (blue for Sapphire and Blue Diamond, red for the Rubies, pink for Rose), Pearl is pure white.

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#49340: May 15th 2017 at 10:20:30 AM

I'm still betting on the "Pearl belonged to White Diamond" theory myself.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49341: May 15th 2017 at 10:22:29 AM

Yeah, but that's also Pearl's primary color. I'm not saying she's not, but it's not necesarilly indicative of that, because it seems mostly like it's just part of the Art Shift.

edited 15th May '17 10:27:45 AM by xanderiskander

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49342: May 15th 2017 at 10:25:47 AM

There was that line from Peridot about Pearl being really fancy or expensive-looking or something. That doesn't necessarily imply a Diamond but it's something to keep in mind.

edited 15th May '17 10:28:41 AM by LSBK

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#49343: May 15th 2017 at 10:27:03 AM

There was also the way she hesitated a line in one of the episodes from the Out of This World bomb. I forget what the line was, but it seemed a bit off.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49344: May 15th 2017 at 10:28:00 AM

TBH I peg her as being formerly an Aristocrat Gem's Pearl, because she shares colors from many colors of Pearls instead of just one, which says to me she might have been a more generic one, instead of one tailored to match a Diamond.

edited 15th May '17 10:32:18 AM by xanderiskander

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49345: May 15th 2017 at 10:35:29 AM

It's funny that we essentially got Garnet and Amethyst's full background before joining the Crystal Gems by the end of season two, but all we've gotten about Pearl's since then was one vague line where she's evasive about the subject.

There was that line from Peridot about Pearl being really "fancy" or "expensive" or something.
Peridot: And she looks like a fancy one, too.
That kind of begs the question of what a not fancy Pearl looks like. Blue and Yellow Pearl's clothes are even less practical (and quite revealing).

Although Peridot's comment seem to be a response to Pearl's Giant Waist Ribbon, which Pearl added to her outfit recently.

There was also the way she hesitated a line in one of the episodes from the Out of This World bomb.
When I still served... Homeworld... I saw [the Zoo] myself.

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#49346: May 15th 2017 at 10:36:06 AM

Yeah Pearl's aren't necessarily just for Diamonds, it's just that we've only seen Pearls that belong to Diamonds.

Pearl belonging to White Diamond seems like the easiest fount for drama, but it doesn't have to be that way. She could just be a Pearl who followed Rose into rebellion.

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#49347: May 15th 2017 at 10:38:50 AM

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Yeah, that line is one that I've seen people cite as meaning Pearl possibly served under White Diamond or something. Even if the theory turns out to be bunk, I'm still wondering why she'd hesitate on that line.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49348: May 15th 2017 at 10:44:18 AM

Regardless of who Pearl served, how she joined the Crystal Gems is a question that should be answered.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#49349: May 15th 2017 at 10:50:21 AM

Hesitated on what line? This line?

What? No. But there was a... No. No, it couldn't possibly still exist. Not since we-
Because the other one you quoted sounded more like an Infodump from Pearl to me. This one sounds more like she was hesitating because she thought they did something, that would have caused them to close the zoo for some reason.

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#49350: May 15th 2017 at 10:51:00 AM

That Other 1 Dude already posted the line I was thinking of.

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