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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49301: May 14th 2017 at 11:40:41 AM

I'm still curious why they would hire a storyboard revisionist if everything was supposedly wrapping up
Zuke and Molisee both left partway into storyboarding the season, so someone needs to take their place, even if it's not for very long.

The show has been confirmed to be in CN's 2017 to 2018 schedule.
Season five would only have to last more than seven months to reach 2018. For reference, season 1a took ten, 1b took six, 2 took ten, 3 took three (because of the Summer of Steven), and 4 took nine.

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#49302: May 14th 2017 at 11:42:09 AM

I'm starting to think they may pull a " Rose Quartz was White Diamond all along!"

Would be funny if they did,for all we know that white dress could be a huge hint,oh and she has Pearl of her own,just like the other diamonds!

But at this point,given the lack of name drop,I'm confident she's been written out in favour of the other diamonds

edited 14th May '17 11:42:48 AM by Ultimatum

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49303: May 14th 2017 at 11:44:30 AM

I'm confident she's been written out in favour of the other diamonds
White Diamond is probably less plot important than the others, but the idea that she must not exist at all is just bizarre.

edited 14th May '17 11:44:39 AM by thatother1dude

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49304: May 14th 2017 at 11:46:43 AM

All I remember hearing about White Diamond is that they weren't sure what they want her role to be, hence why she hasn't been mentioned yet. I don't know from when that's from, though.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#49305: May 14th 2017 at 12:10:47 PM

I think White Diamond just has not been mentioned yet. Remember, Pink was not mentioned until the end of Season 3, and Blue did not appear into halfway into Season 4. Before then, theories such as "Rose is Pink Diamond" or "Blue Diamond is corrupted/missing/Lapis lazuili/shattered" were common.

I think the reason she hasn't been mentioned is because she is going to be on a whole different level of villain than Blue and Yellow. The oldest Diamond with the most colonies who doesn't care a bit about Pink's death beyond the potential threat to her own existence.

edited 14th May '17 12:14:06 PM by SilentColossus

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#49306: May 14th 2017 at 12:30:47 PM

White Diamond as the ultimate villain seems to perfect to pass up.

I worry there won't be enough time to introduce her, though. Not unless she shows up in this bomb anyway.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49307: May 14th 2017 at 12:32:41 PM

In terms of whether the show will end at five seasons, here's what we do know:

  • Rebecca Sugar indicated in an interview that season five is being written as a potential end for the show. I believe her exacting wording included that she would "shoot for the moon" and "write [herself] into a corner" with the season five finale.
  • Because animation takes so long, seasons are typically renewed with many episodes greenlit but unaired. For SU, that number is currently 26 (not counting "Stuck Together"). That is tied for the lowest in the show's history. The show's three seasonal renewals so far were announced with 26, 33, and 41 episode left to air, respectively.

In what may or may not be a related note, several crew members left part way into season five's development—which has happened before, just not as quickly.

  • "The New Lars" was Colin Howard's last episode as a storyboard artist. He's still doing character designs.
  • Lauren Zuke only boarded three or four episodes left unaired, thus their work goes about halfway into the season.
  • Raven Molisee left the show in July 2016. By a broad estimate, I'd say she boarded only one or two episodes of season five, if any.
  • Ben Levin and Matt Burnett both left to work on Craig of the Creek after completing principal writing for season five.

I can provide citations for each claim, but they may take a bit.

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#49308: May 14th 2017 at 12:40:12 PM

> but the idea that she must not exist at all is just bizarre.

I agree and I'll happily eat my own words if she appears

edited 14th May '17 12:41:03 PM by Ultimatum

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#49309: May 14th 2017 at 12:41:14 PM

Zuke and Molisee both left partway into storyboarding the season, so someone needs to take their place, even if it's not for very long.

I was talking about revisionists, not artists, but you do have a point.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49310: May 14th 2017 at 12:54:43 PM

Honestly, I could even buy White Diamond being some sort of mythological figure or Invented Individual. At least then there wouldn't be a conspicuous hole in the narrative.

I was talking about revisionists, not artists, but you do have a point.
When you said they would "hire a storyboard revisionists" I thought you were talking about Amber Cragg being hired as an episode storyboard artist from her job as a revisionist.

Although that's essentially answering the question: She's replacing Howard, Zuke, Molisee, or someone else as storyboard artists and they need someone else to take Cragg's place as revisionist.

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#49311: May 14th 2017 at 1:03:43 PM

I was actually talking about Maya Petersen.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49312: May 14th 2017 at 1:25:25 PM

Petersen started back in December. That makes me think Cragg replaced Zuke, and Petersen took Cragg's previous position, because the dates approximately match up... but that maybe too many assumptions.

Does the show only have one (dedicated) storyboard revisionist at a time? Because I think Rogers/Cragg became one when Zuke moved up to full episode boarder.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#49313: May 14th 2017 at 3:22:05 PM

It was easy to see this coming. But daaaaaaaamn...

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
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#49315: May 14th 2017 at 3:46:22 PM

Aquamarine and Topaz kidnapping humans, ending with Steven offering himself to be taken in their place. Trailers always spoil.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49316: May 14th 2017 at 3:50:00 PM

That was what happened in the most recent episode aired, but we hadn't actually mentioned that in the last several pages.

And I'll point out they pulled a bit of double-subversion with that trailer: the scene they showed was actually Steven just trying to burst Topaz apart... then the Take Me Instead happened later.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#49317: May 14th 2017 at 4:01:31 PM

Well, I only watched the most recent episodes today, and now I'm mentioning them.

Catching up with the last dozen or so pages, I read a post spouting a similar feeling. I guess I didn't realize how out of nowhere my comment sounded @_@

Comments on specific characters: I want to see Aquamarine get her comeuppance. Out of all episodes we've had with Lars, these last few were the first ones to make me think of him as a good person. I don't blame him for what he did last time we saw him. Connie's dad was kinda irresponsible in his episode, but in an obviously "don't try to put this episode in a real world context" way. I can overlook that, but frankly I'd have an easier time if they ended the episode with Steven and Connie handling a real threat like mutant shards or a corrupted gem like the hospital episode. But we already know that, so narratively it'd be redundant. Eh.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#49318: May 14th 2017 at 4:31:48 PM

I'd love to have Connie's parents freak out when they realize how dangerous Gem stuff is. I'm assuming they still have a mindset similar to Greg before "Ocean Gem" and "Jailbreak".

edited 14th May '17 4:32:07 PM by SilentColossus

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#49319: May 14th 2017 at 4:39:46 PM

She has been sending them pictures, though.

I was imagining someone having to explain to them if Aquamarine and Topaz managed to take her off-planet:

  • Bad news: Your daughter was abducted by aliens.
  • Good news: If our long-term mission fails, she'll be living safely off planet when the Earth is destroyed.

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#49320: May 14th 2017 at 4:43:44 PM

They probably know how dangerous the gem stuff is given that Connie welds a sword

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#49321: May 14th 2017 at 5:01:24 PM

Greg knew the gems for years and he still had no idea how dangerous it could get. Partially because, like Connie's parents, all he heard about were gem monsters. I don't think the imperialistic, genocidal dictators have come up in the discussion, because Doug still hadn't heard of the actual terms "Homeworld" or "mutants."

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49322: May 14th 2017 at 10:22:10 PM

Looking around, I find myself oddly shocked, but not really, that there are people who think that Garnet lied, or was somehow wrong about Blue Diamond ordering Ruby to be shattered. I guess it's another situation like Rose shattering Pink Diamond that so many people kept making up reasons for why it didn't actually happened.

Apparently mourning ones sister/loved one means they can't really be a galactic tyrant. Because characters can't be multifaceted, I guess?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#49323: May 14th 2017 at 10:45:43 PM

Good characters can't do bad things...even for a good cause or if it's just the national course of actions.

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KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#49324: May 14th 2017 at 11:03:31 PM

Fans looking at Blue Diamond grieving and going "she has feelings, so she must the good diamond! Garnet must be mistaken about her doing bad things!" was probably inevitable. People aren't used to villains being shown having emotions like that, and as such fanbases in general tend to have a bit of a problem with the idea of otherwise unsympathetic characters having sympathetic traits or vice versa. The series ran into a similar, if far more minor and now largely forgotten, problem with Lapis.

It's worth noting that Blue's grief over Pink is still extremely selfish and callous, with a healthy dose of Moral Myopia, but I wouldn't be surprised if that got ignored.

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#49325: May 14th 2017 at 11:19:50 PM

[up][up] Are you being sarcastic?

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