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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#49226: May 13th 2017 at 10:31:08 AM

What's so onion about Onion?

edited 13th May '17 10:31:36 AM by randomness4

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#49228: May 13th 2017 at 10:40:19 AM

And Blue Diamond really wants an onion

I guess she wants to try Earth's vegetables

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#49229: May 13th 2017 at 11:27:02 AM

I would find Marty a more Love to Hate character but that episode with him and Sour Cream is probably the single worst written of this show in my opinion, so now I just find him actually annoying.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#49230: May 13th 2017 at 1:42:32 PM

Dropbeat Dad was average. The New Lars? That was trash.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49231: May 13th 2017 at 2:13:15 PM

It's hard to have strong feelings about Drop Beat Dad because it was such a nothing episode devoid of any substance.

New Lars is also trash but for being actively bad.

People don't hate Too Short To Ride enough. It's basically the episode where Peridot learns to stop being disabled.

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#49232: May 13th 2017 at 2:17:42 PM

I mean I think that's an overly-villifying reach.

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49233: May 13th 2017 at 2:20:12 PM

Peridot spends the entire episode hating herself for being defective and then learns she has worth because she has magical powers.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#49234: May 13th 2017 at 2:21:45 PM

From what I've gathered, that episode is also seen as big a reason to hate Amethyst for some as Maximum Capacity, because it has Amethyst trying to destroy Peridot's Security Blanket.

edited 13th May '17 2:22:42 PM by sgamer82

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#49235: May 13th 2017 at 2:21:50 PM

4x[up] You make it sound like her desperation to save her tablet unlocked her dormant shapeshifting powers, allowing her to stretch out her arms and catch the tablet as Amethyst threw it. If that had happened, I would agree. As it stands, it was more along the lines of "okay, you can't do this thing. You're never gonna do this thing. But this other thing? You can do that."

edited 13th May '17 2:22:31 PM by SalFishFin

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#49236: May 13th 2017 at 2:23:02 PM

No, clearly she threw Peridot's wheelchair into the sea and Peridot's been dragging herself along the ground the entire time.

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49237: May 13th 2017 at 2:24:50 PM

I mean throwing the tablet, Peridot's treasured possession that she uses for comfort, is also pretty akin to kicking a kid out of a wheelchair and tell them to start walking.

But, it's fine. Peridot has magic powers. She's not broken anymore.

edited 13th May '17 2:25:07 PM by Mr.Badguy

SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#49238: May 13th 2017 at 2:26:51 PM

The point was that Peridot never was broken. It was another commentary on Homeworld and how it fits Gems into purposes and goals and robs them of their worth. She thought she was broken because she'd been taught she was nothing without her enhancers.

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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#49239: May 13th 2017 at 2:28:22 PM

I think Dropbeat Dad was worse than The New Lars.

The New Lars at least gave a little insight into Lars as a character. It showed that Lars has a lot of things going for him and he just doesn't know it, and is only making things worse for himself by pushing them away. However, that's the only good thing about it. Steven as Lars just makes the episode hard to watch.

Dropbeat Dad, on the other hand, showed that any ideas you had about Marty were 100% right. He only cared about his son to the point of profiting off of him, and had no motivation past making money. Marty simply served as a vehicle for some minor character development, and had no actual depth, even less than Kevin. It was a nothing episode with a one-dimensional minor antagonist.

edited 13th May '17 2:29:08 PM by BlueBlaze64

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49240: May 13th 2017 at 2:29:16 PM

She's only "healed" from brokenness because she has ferrokinesis. That's what makes her worthwhile in the end.

I get that it was just a "be yourself" moral with a tacked on, unnecessary way to make Peridot usable in fights, but how they chose to deal with it was awful.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#49241: May 13th 2017 at 2:36:57 PM

[up] I think the argument is that Peridot was never broken to begin with, so she was never in need of actual healing.

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49242: May 13th 2017 at 2:38:48 PM

Yes exactly, there's nothing wrong with Peridot, so why does she end the episode with pulling superpowers out of her ass and vindicating Amethyst for robbing her of her tablet? Why does Peridot need to be improved before she can actually find value in herself?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#49243: May 13th 2017 at 2:47:02 PM

[up] Not prepared to argue Amethyst, I mostly took that as her being a jerk as she sometimes is, but is Peridot really being "improved" when she's finding something she had the entire time without knowing it and something, presumably, she was always going to have from a writing angle?

edited 13th May '17 2:47:16 PM by sgamer82

Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49244: May 13th 2017 at 2:58:40 PM

I mean it's a new thing to us, the viewer, and puts Peridot in a better position than she was in at the start of the episode, so I don't know how to answer that. It's not like we knew Peridots all have ferrokinesis and just got it weened out of them due to bad genes.

Like, I guess I can compare to it some anime character pulling out his Hidden Demon Bloodline Technique or something. Even if it was already there it doesn't make it earned or less of an upgrade.

edited 13th May '17 3:01:26 PM by Mr.Badguy

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#49245: May 13th 2017 at 3:02:23 PM

[up] True. And I can appreciate that the issue here seems to largely be one of delivery. In this instance, set-up is difficult without making Peridot finding powers into a multi-episode arc and probably ending up falling into exactly the "disabled but suddenly not" place previously described.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#49246: May 13th 2017 at 3:43:12 PM

Am I wrong for feeling comparing a security blanket to a wheelchair is insulting to disabled people? Because that was my first thought upon reading that.

And I never saw Peridot's ferrokinesis as "fixing" her. It was just a way of showing there was more to her than even she knew, and added in some potential for her to do stuff in fights.

edited 13th May '17 3:55:29 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#49247: May 13th 2017 at 3:52:49 PM

I thought she was just gonna fight with tech...

Robot mech style.

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#49248: May 13th 2017 at 3:54:26 PM

I think calling Peridot disabled in the first place is offensive to disabled people, especially when she wasn't. Even comparing what Peridot's problem was to disabilities is kinda messed up.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#49249: May 13th 2017 at 4:34:40 PM

I think people are too willing to draw comparisons between in show things and real life events. Not everything has to be an allegory for something.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#49250: May 13th 2017 at 4:35:01 PM

I really do not see how. She has a problem she uses assisting technology to circumvent (lack of powers/poor communication), is hindered by the lack of that equipment (either her Limb Enhancers or her tablet), and then she just magically doesn't have the problem anymore when she gains superpowers.

Would really appreciate you not try and make me off as some kind of ableist shitrag because I didn't like an episode of a cartoon.

edited 13th May '17 4:35:27 PM by Mr.Badguy


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