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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#48526: Apr 10th 2017 at 3:19:37 PM

I know,but the gems in question would rather die then be sent to Rose's bubble dungeon,so they go down fighting instead being bubbled

edit:I should have made it clear that I did intend to suggest that the Crystal Gems side would intentionally shatter gems that refused to submit,

edited 10th Apr '17 3:21:35 PM by Ultimatum

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#48527: Apr 10th 2017 at 3:32:56 PM

wait no misread

edited 10th Apr '17 3:33:59 PM by Oceanstuck

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#48528: Apr 10th 2017 at 3:40:31 PM

Why would you need a prison for Gem shards?

And I doubt no Gems were broken on Homeworld's side, even if it's not what the Crystal Gems would prefer to do.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#48529: Apr 10th 2017 at 3:44:45 PM

I meant to say that some Gems would rather have died in combat instead of surviving as prisoners,but only those which were fanatically loyal likely made that choice

edited 10th Apr '17 3:45:15 PM by Ultimatum

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#48530: Apr 10th 2017 at 4:08:57 PM

When the Crystal Gems caught Peridot, the plan was just to keep her bubbled indefinitely. Why should we expect them to have treated their prisoners differently?

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#48531: Apr 10th 2017 at 4:59:19 PM

The difference is that they are now part of a much smaller group with a different set of objections and a different leader,they didn't see a need for Peridot because they didn't see need for additional crystal gems in order to fight off Homeworld's forces, only Steven decided to free her because of information she had on the cluster,and being related to Rose it makes sense that he would share her compassion

When they were fighting the war Rose probably did what Steven did many times over,and gradually built up an army to fight for her,prisoners they captured after they reached a significant number were likely handled in similar way but not by Rose but using her methods

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#48532: Apr 10th 2017 at 5:03:20 PM

It's not like they can "refuse" to be poofed and bubbled. And Rose didn't allow shattering, so poofing would have been the farthest they'd go.

edited 10th Apr '17 5:04:13 PM by xanderiskander

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#48533: Apr 11th 2017 at 7:00:35 AM

Hmm... I think that The Corruption as launched by the Diamonds could be blocked by certain barriers beyond Rose's shield - my guess is that the prison setup on Lapis' mirror was a block to prevent any energy going in either direction, so that mirror saved Lapis. Also, I guess tons of rock also could prevent it, which is why unemerged Amethyst was fine. Also, Bismuth was not only bubbled, but bubbled in an extradimensional space, so that's why she was safe from it.

Slightly related, I have wondered about what if there was another gem that escaped (maybe being deep underground) and decided to completely go to ground. What would happen if such a gem met the Crystal Gems today? (I can only imagine how much fanfic exists based on this idea.)

As for what other characters would think of The Corruption if they knew the details...

Well, I'm sure Steven is going to learn more details, and he's going to be suitably horrified. I can see him giving a full Kirk Summation to the Diamonds when he gets a chance.

I presume Amethyst was actually given the details some time in the last 5000 years, so I imagine her reaction was just pure shock, and maybe fear.

I kind of wonder if Lapis knows about it; I guess it depends on whether anyone was caught by it near the galaxy warp when she was still trapped. My personal guess is that she doesn't; I kind of question why she'd have wanted to go to Homeworld in the first place if she knew they'd do something like that. Then again, there is the Fridge Logic about the fact that Lapis did want to go to the planet of the people who unjustly tortured and imprisoned her - early Lapis was all kinds of messed up by her experiences.

I suspect that Peridot would have undergone her Heel–Face Turn more rapidly if she had known about The Corruption. She would have found the idea of such collateral damage extremely wasteful. Of course, I think today's Peri would just find it disgusting (kinda how she reacted to Jasper being corrupted), but it would just reinforce her currently held opinions. She probably would handle it best of all the heroes.

Connie, I bet, would react similar to Steven - a mix of scared, disgusted, and horrified. She probably would also be the one most likely to have a very awful Fridge Horror moment - who's to say that Homeworld couldn't figure out how to corrupt other life forms... and, in fact, maybe that's why the human zoo exists, for Homeworld experiments on human corruption.

Flipping over to Homeworld forces, I bet Jasper would just have been "You got what's coming to you... you should have been strong, like me!" She probably would use corruption as proof that she's really that great, because she avoided it... well, until she didn't. Oops.

Yellow Diamond's Ruby Squad, though, I bet they would just be all "Yeah, show those Crystal Gems who's boss! Use it!" Little jerks.

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#48534: Apr 11th 2017 at 3:59:59 PM

> Slightly related, I have wondered about what if there was another gem that escaped (maybe being deep underground) and decided to completely go to ground. What would happen if such a gem met the Crystal Gems today? (I can only imagine how much fanfic exists based on this idea.)

"Where's Rose?"

Garnet:"She's here" *points to Steven*

THAT'S NOT ROSE YOU'RE LYING YOU CAN'T MANIPULATE ME

edit to serious post:Any returning Crystal Gem would seriously question Rose's absence,as far they were probably concerned she was the rebellion,and the idea that she's now Steven may be a little difficult for them to accept and it would take some convincing.

Also I 'd like to think there are actually uncorrected Crystal Gems inside the Earth's soil just waiting to reemerge after laying dormant for thousands of years,maybe they need a signal.Also remember that line about sending the Rubies to Neptune? I would love it if turned out that actually were some were hiding on Neptune this whole time

edited 11th Apr '17 4:36:19 PM by Ultimatum

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
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#48537: Apr 12th 2017 at 9:52:43 AM

That's an odd album image, though very cool looking. And Volume 1... I wonder how many seasons worth of songs that will have?

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#48538: Apr 12th 2017 at 5:31:23 PM

> corrupted gem dinosaurs.

which were previously Amber gems! The episode practically writes itself,you could even throw in references to The Core and Jurassic Park

Now I'm wondering what roles other organic gems likely play in Gem society,we know that Pearls are servants to high ranking gems and Diamonds,I don't suppose they are quite as numerous as say Amethysts or Jaspers,but I can see Ambers ,Copals and Jets being included somewhere

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#48539: Apr 12th 2017 at 7:04:12 PM

I seriously want an Ice Gem. Mostly because she would have to stay in the Arctic or Antarctic just to survive, and those places are not known for having a ton of people. The isolation drama almost literally writes itself.

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#48540: Apr 12th 2017 at 8:23:32 PM

I point out that Bismuth IRL is infamous for its low melting point, but Gem!Bismuth can work incredibly close to lava.

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#48541: Apr 13th 2017 at 5:19:37 AM

[up][up] Can't Lapis turn water into ice since we saw Malachite doing that.

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#48542: Apr 13th 2017 at 7:30:12 AM

@48536 That's hardly the only case of there being irony between a gem's capabilities and what the real world gem is capable of. In real life, lapis lazuli are water-soluble (which is the origin of the True Blue Femininity trope, as detailed on that trope page).

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#48543: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:15:06 AM

[up][up]He meant a gem made of ice.

[up]And peridots are unstable on Earth's surface because they chemically react with water (in liquid form or in the atmosphere). Sure, it's metaphorically meaningful in terms of Peridot's time on Earth, but there's no sign that Peridot's gem will ever turn into serpentinite.

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#48544: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:22:18 AM

I took Malachite's freezing ability as Lapis' hydrokinesis combined with Jasper hardening it.

That's probably not scientific.

If she were to fuse with Peridot... who knows. How would ferrokinesis combine with hydrokinesis?

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#48545: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:23:32 AM

Might be something a bit out of left field.

Ruby's fire combines with Sapphire's ice to make Garnet's electricity.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#48546: Apr 13th 2017 at 8:27:25 AM

They will use their power together to make and control a hydraulic robot.

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#48547: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:02:19 AM

I know a lot of series split up control of water and control of ice, but they're really close enough, I think.

Though if peridot stone reacts with water to form serpentinite, we may have a name for if they eventually fuse.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#48548: Apr 13th 2017 at 9:49:36 AM

Serpentinite is the material, a gem made of it is called a "serpentine". It's like how Peridot said she was made of peridotite.

It's appropriate in that sense, but also inappropriately edgey. Which kind of makes me like it more? Especially since the word always makes me think of someone yelling "Serpentine!"

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#48549: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:56:36 AM

Hmm... one thing about Peridot's ferrokinesis (which I've never liked as a term, but the term is older than I am, so I just have to deal - I'd prefer metallokinesis) is that Peridot can't really change the metal that she moves around; she can just move it. Meanwhile, Lapis can manipulate water to take the form she desires. My suspicion is that a Peri-Lapis fusion would gain the ability to manipulate the shape of metal in addition to simply just moving it. Though that would be a near-Game-Breaker power... which might be why the two haven't fused yet; the showrunners are saving it for a major battle.

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#48550: Apr 13th 2017 at 11:58:00 AM

Make all metal liquid metal at room temperature

Reshape at will.

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