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32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#48351: Mar 31st 2017 at 7:51:36 AM

I still prefer Garnet as leader... that said, given that he's Rose's son, I totally can see the Crystal Gems treating Steven as leader-in-training.

Honestly, I have no problem with the idea that Rose stashed stuff for Steven all over. Between being able to use warps all by herself and the fact that she could get Greg to help her out, Rose had tons of opportunities to hide stuff all over even just in the short span (well, short compared to a gem's nigh-infinite lifespan) between meeting Greg and birthing Steven.

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#48352: Mar 31st 2017 at 7:55:55 AM

And in fairness, one of those secret places was also known to Pearl.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#48353: Mar 31st 2017 at 10:33:17 AM

If the Diamonds killed Jasper, the Homeworld gems' reaction would obviously depend on what their stated reason was. "They have no need for them anymore" is really vague. Do you mean they think she was completely useless to them? That's obviously not true. I could see them deciding Jasper's strength is not enough to tolerate her insubordination to Diamonds besides Pink. But Eyeball's idolization of Jasper makes me think some gems would be upset at her execution even if the Diamonds had a completely legitimate reason to have her killed. Jasper went so far off-mission, she basically committed treason. You might think that was because no one was watching, but I don't think she cared about that. She was completely serious when she said failure to serve the Diamonds was unforgivable. I think she's done this kind of thing regularly and openly, but her fame and power have insulated her from punishment.
Just imagine what Jasper would say if Yellow Diamond decided, "Yeah, you're great and all but we really don't need you anymore now please die."

TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#48354: Mar 31st 2017 at 10:55:03 AM

Jasper at Beta was a bit like Coronel Kurtz and his Montagnards. It was very Heart Of Darkness.

Come to think of it, there might be a fanfic there.

They were gonna make me a major for this, and I wasn't even in their fuckin' army anymore. Everybody wanted me to do it, her most of all. I felt like she was down there, waiting for me to take the pain away. She just wanted to go out like a soldier, standing up, not like some poor, wasted, rag-assed monster. Even the planet wanted her dead, and that's who she really took her orders from anyway.

Hey, man, you don't talk to the Jasper. You listen to her. The gem's enlarged my mind. She's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean, sometimes she'll, uh, well, you'll say hello to her, right? And she'll just walk right by you, and she won't even notice you. And suddenly she'll grab you, and she'll throw you in a corner, and she'll say "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? 'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all gems doubt you'..." I mean, I'm no, I can't – I'm a little gem, I'm a little gem, she's, she's a great gem. "I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas" …

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#48356: Mar 31st 2017 at 2:02:47 PM

Man, the team behind SU is exactly like one would expect.

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#48357: Mar 31st 2017 at 5:41:10 PM

The Steven Universe subreddit has become a Lapis Lazuli subreddit now. This is a hilarious April Fool's Day prank.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#48358: Mar 31st 2017 at 6:06:12 PM

Well, she was already an major icon in that thread.

I'm guessing whoever did this is British?

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#48359: Mar 31st 2017 at 6:11:59 PM

Well the head mod is named Fenric like the Doctor Who character, so maybe.

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#48360: Apr 1st 2017 at 12:29:55 PM

> Jasper went so far off-mission, she basically committed treason. You might think that was because no one was watching, but I don't think she cared about that. She was completely serious when she said failure to serve the Diamonds was unforgivable. I think she's done this kind of thing regularly and openly, but her fame and power have insulated her from punishment.

This got me thinking,Homeworld may not see whats happening on Earth,but they might well hear about what's going on thanks to radio and TV broadcasts travelling through space,of course they would need radio telescopes or something,so I feel the Crystals Gems's reluctance to engage with the humans of beach city is probably justified.

But yeah,Jasper basically went AWOL but the Diamonds would definitely overlook the violation of orders if it meant finally capturing their hated enemies and their leader however,since their concern was the cluster they might give Jasper some minor reprimand,I can't see them really punishing Jasper at all in this scenario. Since Jasper actually failed her mission entirely (No Rose,no crystal gems and No Cluster) then even her celebrity status would not save her from her superior's wroth

edited 1st Apr '17 12:31:03 PM by Ultimatum

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#48361: Apr 1st 2017 at 12:31:21 PM

Oh also, today on Cartoon Network their April Fool's Day prank is making all of the shows have googly eyes added to them. Which is stupid but it at least made Together Breakfast ten times funnier.

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#48362: Apr 1st 2017 at 12:35:56 PM

Jasper felt that Yellow Diamond would REALLY want to know about the whole Rose=Steven thing. At that point she made a command decision, which was in her power to do. So she wasn't committing treason or anything. Now, after she got released from the Malachite fusion she went native and started building her corrupted Gem army. That was definitely not in her original mission perimeters, but it's not like she had a way to go back to Homeworld and report to Yellow Diamond. Despite this she was still loyal to Yellow. I mean she never did anything treasonous. Unless you count fusing with a different type of Gem treasonous. Not sure how Yellow would have felt about that part.

edited 1st Apr '17 12:36:55 PM by WillKeaton

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#48364: Apr 1st 2017 at 1:37:58 PM

Wouldn't it have been a bit suspicious to have Peridot show up with them to the Zoo? I'd have figured they'd single her out for not having any limb enhancers on.

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#48365: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:15:11 PM

Beyond merely raising suspicions it would blow their cover,it's hard to do a rescue mission when at least on them is known fugitive,word is bound to have gotten around about that one peridot going rogue,the Diamonds would definitely recognise her limb enhancers or not

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#48366: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:21:09 PM

"They broke"

Although I figure the real reason Peridot didn't go is because she didn't want to. She's just settling in on Earth and facing the culture that can never be hers again could be a tough thing to weather so soon into her new life.

Plus she made sure Lapis would be okay to be left alone when she thought she was visiting a kindergarten for under an hour. Leaving her alone for much longer is maybe something she wouldn't want to do.

Doylistically, everyone of the people that went already had a sort of character moment. Adding another character might be too much and the CGs plus Steven are the main characters

There's no harm in wanting episodes to go another way though. And they are right that if the writers had wanted to have Peridot on the mission she would have been.

edited 1st Apr '17 2:27:34 PM by Bocaj

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#48367: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:31:34 PM

I don't think any thought was put into it at all. Steven was in panic mode over his Dad. He just wanted to get into space to save him ASAP. He left her behind because he thought her doing tech support on the ship would slow them down.

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#48368: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:34:20 PM

Plus someone needed to watch Beach City Just In Case.

There are still gem zombies and corrupted gems out there, probably.

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#48369: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:49:12 PM

Soooo, no interest in the idea of Jasper as a Coronel Kurtz?

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#48370: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:49:42 PM

(who?!)

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#48371: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:56:45 PM

Crazy dude from Apocalypse Now.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#48372: Apr 1st 2017 at 2:58:17 PM

Then I look at The New Crystal Gems and… Well, it was a fun episode and all, but holy cripes, both Peri AND Lapis (but Peri especially) was really starting to grate on my nerves, and I think Connie basically summed up the reason why:

image Because they’ve both been acting more like superpowered children more than anything lately. Way more than any of the other gems we see.

And then in Room for Ruby, we see Lapis and Peridot lose the ship?

Like… Dude.

I’m not trying to hate on these episodes bc I still enjoyed them and do think they have good points as well, but lately, it just feels like the crewniverse has been pegging Peridot and Lapis as really incompetent.

They make some really good points. I think this might be one reason I'm feeling kind of eh, with the show lately. The characters are being treated more like tools for gags than characters with depth than they were before. It was present before, but the balance was usually more on the side of drama than comedy.

I mean, I'm fine with shows like that when that's what the show is about. But when you set up the show to have characters growing, and then you just don't let them, it kind of goes against what you want from the show in a negative way.

edited 1st Apr '17 3:02:58 PM by xanderiskander

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#48373: Apr 1st 2017 at 3:03:51 PM

I gotta agree with Bocaj, although I don't have many complaints towards Peridot's arc. I mean, I don't have the complaints presented so far.

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#48374: Apr 1st 2017 at 3:08:27 PM

I can definitely understand those complaints, but I don't really agree with them.

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#48375: Apr 1st 2017 at 3:35:01 PM

I'm going to say that losing the ship is on Steven.

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