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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#48026: Mar 13th 2017 at 7:35:02 PM

The Jasper stuff was best paced, but even that had Kiki's Pizza Delivery Service kind of awkwardly thrown in. Breather Episode, I guess.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#48027: Mar 13th 2017 at 7:43:24 PM

Pretty sure it was Greg the Babysitter that was placed in the middle of it (and Bismuth, but that one was good enough as a well done one off). Considering Greg the Babysitter aired right after not only Alone at Sea (one of the most claustrophobic and tense episodes) and Monster Reunion (one of the most depressing episodes), and right before Gem Hunt (tense episode that provided arc buildup and character development for Connie), having it as a bit of filler might have made the pacing awkward some, but seeing a look at Rose and Greg during another period of their relationship was fun.

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#48029: Mar 13th 2017 at 7:54:35 PM

I feel like I should maybe try and compare how much lore episodes versus Beach City centered episodes there have been in each season.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#48030: Mar 13th 2017 at 8:39:31 PM

I have a phrase that I used whenever I noticed pacing problems, it is for lack of better terms that the episode "elapsed too quickly". I noticed this Phenomenon happening not just in Steven Universe, but also Hanazuki, MLP (meaning that this isn't limited to Quarter Hour Short formats), RWBY and a few other shows that I can't remember.

It just seems like pacing and animation seem to have a rocky relationship

edited 13th Mar '17 8:40:22 PM by MorningStar1337

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#48031: Mar 13th 2017 at 8:57:17 PM

Not sure Cosmic Horror would work in Steven Universe. It requires a belief in human smallness and even in the inevitability of destruction (which is not necessarily the same as Grim Darkness). Adventure Time takes place in a world where humans were destroyed by nuclear war and magic, and the survivors continue to dwindle even on the Islands.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#48032: Mar 13th 2017 at 8:59:35 PM

I dunno, I still think the Gems can sorta count as such.

A race of automatons made of hard light that seemingly exist only to expand and destroy organic life. No need to eat, drink, rest. Effectively immortal.

You can do some scary stuff with that if you put your mind to it.

Oh really when?
SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#48033: Mar 13th 2017 at 9:05:00 PM

But they still feel human-like emotions. They don't perceive reality much different from humans aside from the cultural. And being immortal, but that is a relatively small difference.

A proper Cosmic Horror figure sees reality on a different level than humans. How they see the world, including time, purpose, and existence is about as different as humans and ants see reality.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#48034: Mar 13th 2017 at 9:06:50 PM

[up][up]Yeah but that's closer to Humanoid Abomination (or even Eldritch Abomination), while they are associated with the genre, they are not exclusively tied to Cosmic Horror Story.

[up]And then we have the case of Lovecraft Lite

edited 13th Mar '17 9:07:34 PM by MorningStar1337

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#48035: Mar 13th 2017 at 9:08:19 PM

Sure, but Lovecraft had elements of both. And the gems are neither.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#48036: Mar 13th 2017 at 9:38:20 PM

So apparently the next episode probably doesn't air until March 23 (a Thursday), so we're gonna have a brief hiatus until then. There's some back and forth going on over whether that's gonna still be the airdate because apparently the listing got taken off of Zap-2-It, so I don't know if the airdate is the official one.

(fingers crossed they end up pushing the airdate some and make it into a Stevenbomb to finish up Season 4)

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#48037: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:16:25 PM

You know, I do have a gripe with New Crystal Gems: it established that Connie, Peridot, Lapis, and Pumpkin are the B Team. I don't like that, because I wanted Connie and Peridot to eventually become part of the A Team!

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#48038: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:18:04 PM

I'd love to see Peridot with a mr. T Mohawk as well.

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#48039: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:20:08 PM

[up][up] Aren't they still technically part of the A Team?

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#48040: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:21:58 PM

You can move up to A team from B team so its no big deal

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#48041: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:24:35 PM

I'm tempted to link to that Robot Chicken skit with the B Team.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48042: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:24:46 PM

You're not part of the A Team until they change the intro to have you singing the song and mentioned in it as part of the team.

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#48043: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:24:53 PM

I've been rather bored with the show recently, to be honest. I guess it was more exciting, when there were new bits of information every once and awhile for people to draw theories from, but that well's run a bit dry as of late.

I kind of just can't see where the show goes from here.

They normalized the Diamonds quite a bit by trying to make them sympathetic. and I don't really see them building too much on that. I also can't see the Diamonds doing anything that makes them anything more than a momentary threat, at least until it's time to end the show, because they're too much of a story breaker. And the main characters have all gotten a sizable amount of character growth by this point.

I've liked all the recent episodes fine, but I wasn't really amazed by any of them like some people were.

edited 13th Mar '17 10:37:21 PM by xanderiskander

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#48044: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:42:55 PM

OK, so...would Garnet be B.A. or Hannibal if the Crystal Gems were The A-Team? Steven is Faceman and Pearl is Murdoch.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#48045: Mar 13th 2017 at 10:59:30 PM

[up][up]The Diamonds lead a spacefaring race of conquerors and colonizers that hollow out planets and destroy ecosystems in the name of expansion while upholdin and prioritizing a remarkably strict and borderline abusive caste system.

The fact that they sometimes cry because they lost a sister doesn't change that fact.

edited 13th Mar '17 11:00:05 PM by SalFishFin

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#48046: Mar 13th 2017 at 11:10:27 PM

I think it's interesting that the Diamonds don't just uphold the caste system, they're slaves to it as much as any other Gem is. They serve one purpose: to be leaders, and they experience pressure and stress about their role in Gem society just like all Gems seem to.

edited 13th Mar '17 11:29:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#48047: Mar 13th 2017 at 11:14:56 PM

Eh. By that logic you could argue that a king is "just as much a slave" to the system as the serfs.

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#48048: Mar 13th 2017 at 11:22:32 PM

[up][up] Keep in mind that they do have the most of the one thing any thinking being would covet. power.

edited 13th Mar '17 11:23:41 PM by MorningStar1337

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#48049: Mar 14th 2017 at 2:34:28 AM

They are slotted into the caste system just as firmly as everyone else, yes, but not only do they have the power to change that (as leaders do), it's very possible that the Diamond Authority's currently living members are the ones who initiated the whole caste system itself in the first place.

One thing I really like about SU is the way that characters are rounded out in their roles. The Crystal Gems have done some bad things to people, even to good people; we still don't know who put Lapis in the mirror, but Pearl knew about it, and more to the point so did Rose, who actually could have fixed her Gem. Rose shattered Pink Diamond. That doesn't make them good people who are secretly evil, it makes them good people who have made mistakes. Likewise, the fact that Blue Diamond apparently spends most of her time out of the public eye mourning Pink doesn't mean that she didn't rule as strictly around the caste system and banning fusion as the other Diamonds.

You might even say that the characters are... faceted.

It's been fun.
Oceanstuck Dark Sun, what choices have I...? from see handle Since: Feb, 2017 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#48050: Mar 14th 2017 at 2:58:36 AM

but we do know who put lapis in the mirror

it was homeworlds legal system going into gem mccarthyism

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