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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47876: Mar 11th 2017 at 2:21:26 PM

Well great...randomness had to go look it up anyway because it felt confusing.

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RegisteredUser Body contains a Human Soul. from It's as cold as it looks. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
Body contains a Human Soul.
#47877: Mar 11th 2017 at 2:31:01 PM

Dang, okay. Save The Light looks like it's intending to be every bit the sequel to Attack The Light as I dare dreamed. Which is to say, expanding the Paper Mario Lite-ness of the first game into, well, a full and proper not-Paper Mario game. It looks like it's aiming far beyond my expectations, honestly! Plus, while Connie being added to the cast was absolutely necessary for any proper sequel to ATL, playable Greg is an unexpected bonus.

Overall, that's rad.

edited 11th Mar '17 2:33:25 PM by RegisteredUser

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47878: Mar 11th 2017 at 3:29:56 PM

I have to concur with those who thought that Navy's voice was hard to listen to. It was just the perfect balance of high-pitched and overly cutesy-wootsy that forces you to listen hard to what she's saying to understand her words, but listening too hard to what she's saying is unpleasant to your ears.

Bananaquit Since: Jan, 2001
#47879: Mar 11th 2017 at 4:57:48 PM

So...the message of this episode is: trust nobody!

Only kidding. I liked it!

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47880: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:05:06 PM

Thas a good message...

Beware the Nice Ones and all that...except the rare evil example.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47881: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:15:48 PM

It's a Subverted Suspicion Aesop, those pretty much thrive on throwing out reasonable lessons for the sake of subverting expectations and/or maintaining status quo. The page quote is even pointing out that being untrusting of strangers is the only thing you can "learn" from these experiences.

edited 11th Mar '17 5:17:19 PM by thatother1dude

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47882: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:17:31 PM

I think the Aesop was "being angry at your situation is okay", via Lapis.

Oh God! Natural light!
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47883: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:21:09 PM

"If someone deals with stress better than you, they're either lying or there's something wrong with them".

I'm mostly joking, you can make any aesop sound terrible with a little imagination.

edited 11th Mar '17 5:29:55 PM by thatother1dude

MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#47884: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:39:17 PM

Sounds like something for Warp That Aesop

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47885: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:02:18 PM

I liked this episode but it was pretty fucked, message wise. The gang's right, people adjust to weird and difficult situations differently. Lapis adapted differently to Peridot, after all.

Lapis's outlash was uncalled for and mean, even if she was dealing with her own feelings. The universe just happened to conspire to justify her paranoias and insecurities.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47886: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:06:05 PM

To be honest, Lapis's lashing out at Navy feels like something I've been feeling like doing the past few days now...

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#47887: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:17:16 PM

I related to her venting a lot, so yeah...

Anyway, cool, a proper SU RPG on consoles! And fucking Connie is playable, about damn time! Oh I wish I had any consoles, playing as Steven, Peridot maybe, Connie, and Greg in a team would be awesome.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47888: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:22:18 PM

[up][up][up]Jealousy is always uncalled-for...

So it can't be helped...

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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#47889: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:24:59 PM

The series certainly isn't endorsing Lapis' nihilism in this episode.

It's a deliberate subversion of Peridot's heel turn. A goofy comic relief lands on Steven's doorstep and immediately acclimates herself to the Gems. She's wacky and silly and lends herself to comedy situations except, whoops, turns out she's a villain and she's deliberately preying on Steven's altruism to get what she wants.

Lapis, meanwhile, is infuriated because she's still suffering from depression. This might just be a thing you don't get unless you've lived it, but the resentment of other people for seeming to just get it right while you flounder helplessly completely unknowing as to why you can't fix yourself is one of the most real things in my life.

Lapis "wins" in the end because she's proven right, but she really isn't. There isn't some grand schematic that says people have to be broken; she's just hurt right now and she's lashing out.

edited 11th Mar '17 6:26:19 PM by Mr.Badguy

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47890: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:25:29 PM

The Steven RPG is also being released on PC,

[up] [up] [up]

edited 11th Mar '17 6:26:20 PM by Ultimatum

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#47891: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:33:31 PM

This quote by Vrai Kaiser (The Mary Sue) sums it up pretty well:

Lapis’ moment of triumph at the end – that nobody’s that well-adjusted – is a bit of a darkly comic nudge at the show, but also kinda just…at life. If you’ve ever lived with mental illness, that experience of ‘okay but what are you HIDING’ around seemingly care-free people is too real for words.

And it's a message worth including in a show about the power of love and redemption: sometimes that attitude means people are gonna take you for a ride. Literally, in this case. Charlene Yi deserves special kudos for selling the transition to sinister in those last few moments, working not just the impression that possibly everything we've ever seen about Navy is a put on, but also adding a quality homage to the famed anime “ojou laugh.” I would like to shake the hand of whoever in the recording booth pushed for that particular choice.

edited 11th Mar '17 6:35:22 PM by SilentColossus

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#47892: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:44:33 PM

I wonder if someone of the characters will have to be unlocked in STL, or if they'll all be available from the start.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47893: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:01:16 PM

Lapis, meanwhile, is infuriated because she's still suffering from depression. This might just be a thing you don't get unless you've lived it, but the resentment of other people for seeming to just get it right while you flounder helplessly completely unknowing as to why you can't fix yourself is one of the most real things in my life.
And then Lapis was Tomoko.

Tall Poppy Syndrome (specifically from a protagonist) is a motive I usually like. Mostly because it's behavior I (perceive myself as having) shared more when I was younger, thus I can relate to it without it making me feel uncomfortable.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#47894: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:03:54 PM

It's going to be on PC too? YES. Please be a thing.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47895: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:12:23 PM

No, Grumpyface has specifically not revealed which platforms it will release on, saying it's something CN will announce. The only detail is that it's more than one.

edited 11th Mar '17 7:12:54 PM by thatother1dude

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#47896: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:13:54 PM

PS 4 is confirmed. Sony's already written stuff up about it.

Oh really when?
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#47897: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:25:04 PM

Plus the screenshots that showed the backpack had the triangle button on it.

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Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#47898: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:29:59 PM

I was spoiled on the twist that Navy was pretending the whole time, but actually watching the episode I saw Lapis ultimate reaction way before it actually came to happen - including her uncontrollable laughter when it finally happens.

Kinda hard to weight my opinion on how the twist was handled since, y'know, I first heard it here. Navy and Leggy were my favorite of the five Rubies, and I was hoping that, if not all of them would befriend the gems, it would have been these two. But I wasn't really expecting that all of them would become allies - my guess was that probably only one would, if that. Mostly because I couldn't really see where the show would take this whole new cast of characters. I mean, I could have been proven wrong, but I digress.

I think this episode really fits Navy's character, tho. She's nice, but she's not good - she still works for Yellow Diamond, and wants wanted to get revenge. I don't think she's a mind-boggling evil mastermind, I just think she wanted to do unto the gems what they did unto her.

That said, I wonder if she could have been won over, or if she was just going to keep pretending to like them. Garnet was waiting at the beach, and I can't see how else they'd all get there unless Navy got her hands on the ship in any alternate probability.

Was it just me or Lapis and Peridot's hair looked bigger than normal in the second half of the episode?

Oh, also Tiger Philantropist. It wasn't as bad as I gathered from people's reactions. It was better than a few other episodes this season. I like that Amethyst and Steven's double wrestling lives were addressed again, and the closure happened on-screen. Also, Lars: really? Are you pretending, in denial, or just plain stupid? At least he wasn't a huge jerk this episode. Keyword: huge.

By the way, what is the spoiler policy of this thread regarding new episodes?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47899: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:36:49 PM

He was just being stupid...easy answer.

Seeing as he said "Tiger Millionaire" was over 7 ft tall...

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Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47900: Mar 11th 2017 at 7:41:44 PM

We don't really have a spoiler policy set in stone, I don't think? We have the Spoilers and Leaks thread, but we set that up after Super Watermelon Island and Barn Mates got super bad leaks from CN UK. It's only to discuss these leaks 4chan finds before the episodes air, and whenever CN accidentally leaks shit because they suck at it (all of the Out of this World event got leaked a month before it aired and discussion was kept in that thread, for example).

As for the art thing in Room for Ruby, people have been complaining about it a lot. One thing that kind of irritates me about the fandom is how people keep getting angry about when the art gets kind of off, which bugs me because I'm thinking "Guys, this episode had such good writing, I don't care about the art looking off". Yeah, it can piss people off and it's been a divisive topic for the show that's been discussed to hell and back, but it just feels so damn pedantic at this point. This is the first episode I've thought was super good since the Out of this World event (Storm in the Room was great but rushed, this episode was more consistent), I don't care about the damn art. It can be stick figures or puppets or a black screen for all I care, the writing is still so damn good that I can forgive it.

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