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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#47826: Mar 10th 2017 at 9:50:41 PM

One thing I note is that for all the time Steven never just apologized to Navy and offered to find her squadmates with her. While Navy pretending to have no bitterness toward him was part of her ruse, I wonder if this episode would have gone differently if he acted genuinely remorseful. Garnet did say there was a chance she could have genuinely joined them.

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#47827: Mar 10th 2017 at 9:52:34 PM

[up]Possibly...probably. He seems to have buried those feelings with the butterflies.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47828: Mar 10th 2017 at 9:53:23 PM

Something I noticed in the episode: The pose Navy makes when she crashes in front of Steven and Garnet is the same pose Yamcha made in Dragon Ball when he got blown up by the Saibaman like a punk.

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#47829: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:05:53 PM

This marks antagonist number 4 that decided not to accept Steven. At this point, I've written off the Ruby squad as ever siding with Steven (which is not to say they're completely evil), and I think they're being used as a stepping stone for future antagonists to not accept friendship or redemption.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#47830: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:09:02 PM

I'm still holding out for Jasper, damn it!

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#47831: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:11:23 PM

Honestly it's kind of annoying to me how little Steven's diplomatic skills have been effective recently. Back in Season 3 it was necessary to show that you can't reach everyone the same way you reached Peridot and Lapis. Now I feel like this show is going too far in the cynical direction. Albeit I still think it's justified from the Rubies' perspective, but on a Doylist front I'm not sure this was the right move.

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47832: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:12:12 PM

[up][up][up]If this Sweet Ruby could've gone 2-ways, maybe the Newbie Ruby would've also been likely to join the CGs...

[up]But Steven himself wasn't really trying here...

edited 10th Mar '17 10:13:48 PM by randomness4

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#47833: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:13:32 PM

In fairness to Steven, one of the first things Navy said after scream crashing to Earth was that the other Rubies were bullying her.

Going 'hey lets go reunite you with your bullies' is not what would be anyone's first impulse.

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#47834: Mar 10th 2017 at 10:14:32 PM

I don't think there's any reason we need a stepping stone for that, but I like the Rubies as they are. I don't see them joining the Crystal Gems either at this point.

Of course, there is the possibility that Homeworld will decide to leave Earth alone (Blue already wants to), which would mean they wouldn't really need to get redeemed.

And I want Jasper to join the team badly. Like, so much. My horrible orange trash queen. At least let her be a Team Pet or something!

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#47835: Mar 10th 2017 at 11:18:14 PM

I'd think its gonna get worse before it gets better. For one thing:

  • We have Yellow Diamond, who is likely to try to destroy Earth.
  • We have Blue Diamond, who is likely to get pissed when she finds out that her recent "souvenir" has escaped
  • We have the Zoo Crew, who are complicit in letting Greg escape (with their boss forced between Scylla and Charybdis as a result). If the Rubies wind up at the zoo, they might cause them to slip up.
  • And now we have Navy, who has took back her ship, placing herself in a position to finding her squad and report to Yellow Diamond the hell that they had been put through.

Conclusion: wild mass guess I predict that the next time we see a Ruby (bar garnet unfusing), it will be where Yellow Diamond is, and they will set off a large scale invasion. Blue Diamond may or may take part in this, party in vengeance for Greg's rescue and partly because she might see it her duty to kill the Legacy of Pink Diamond's murderer (and the murderer themself).

Of course, all of this seems like series finale material. Only thing missing is White Diamond, and a cure for The Corruption that created the Gem Monsters (Because Bookends, and there would still be a forgotten plot thread otherwise).

edited 10th Mar '17 11:19:18 PM by MorningStar1337

RedSavant Since: Jan, 2001
#47836: Mar 10th 2017 at 11:40:30 PM

I don't think Blue Diamond will be pissed. She wanted to keep Greg because Pink Diamond owned Earth and she thought it was going to explode soon, so she took him as another reminder of Pink.

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MorningStar1337 The Encounter that ended the Dogma from 🤔 Since: Nov, 2012
The Encounter that ended the Dogma
#47837: Mar 10th 2017 at 11:47:08 PM

There is still the matter that the rebellion (and as far as they would know, their leader) still exists. That might serve to drive her ire for quite a bit.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47838: Mar 10th 2017 at 11:48:25 PM

YD won't try to destroy the Earth because they still believe that the Cluster is a thing in progress. So as long as they believe in that, the only thing they're going to Earth for is more hyoo-mans for the zoo.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#47840: Mar 11th 2017 at 1:50:49 AM

Cool!

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#47841: Mar 11th 2017 at 2:53:28 AM

Navy was creepy from beginning to end. In the end she was outright disturbing. Like, 'nauseating''.

I'm 100% with Lapis today.

And I love Lapidot: they're really starting to have something, those two.

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AegisP Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Kindhearted SSSSSNAKE Man
#47842: Mar 11th 2017 at 4:39:04 AM

I dont know why but I think Ruby was TOO CUTE AND ADORABLE... and not in a good way. It stretched my suspension of disbelief.

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TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#47843: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:02:59 AM

Navy was creepy from beginning to end. In the end she was outright disturbing. Like, 'nauseating''. I'm 100% with Lapis today.

Really? I thought she was cute and charming. Up until she was revealed to be a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, that is.

I guess my tolerance for cutesy happy-go-lucky types is just higher or something.

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Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#47844: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:05:27 AM

I pretty much hated her from beginning to end. Her voice annoyed me.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#47845: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:29:58 AM

I'm glad that Steven's tendency to automatically trust cute and feminine characters backfired horribly. Now he has no spaceship and faces the threat of the Rubies telling homeworld everything.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47846: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:43:10 AM

Everybody but Lapis was holding the Idiot Ball this episode,making it the best episode ever!

Edit:What exactly do the Rubies know though?

edited 11th Mar '17 5:47:38 AM by Ultimatum

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#47847: Mar 11th 2017 at 5:46:29 AM

I don't think a willingness to believe the best in people should be viewed as holding the idiot ball

It was worth trying. There wasn't no hope there

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47848: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:24:27 AM

It's just they demonstrated extreme naivety and ignored basic concerns when they were raised because they weren't paying attention

So I think this episode has a pretty clear message about actually LISTENING to people when they tell you something

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47849: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:48:49 AM

In fairness to Steven, one of the first things Navy said after scream crashing to Earth was that the other Rubies were bullying her.

Going 'hey lets go reunite you with your bullies' is not what would be anyone's first impulse.

Also in fairness, that was by far the most obvious lie she made in the whole episode.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#47850: Mar 11th 2017 at 6:53:01 AM

It was but also somehow perfectly tailored to be what Steven and Garnet wanted to hear

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