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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47776: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:37:09 PM

I thought this would happen but it happened so well I wasn't even disappointed. Plus, that Lapis character moment.
I spent the whole episode thinking "OK, what could the inevitably plot twist be besides Navy lying?" But Lapis's suspicions added a lot to the episode, keeping it from being too painfully obvious (because that's just the worst when no character considers the thing the audience figures out immediately).

Also, when do you think she came up with that plan?
I don't know about stealing the ship specifically, but in my mind she decided to take advantage of the Crystal Gems the second she touched down and realize she couldn't take them in a fight.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#47777: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:39:42 PM

I'm not even gonna ask now Navy managed to land right in front of the Crystal Gems' door. A Wizard Did It and I'm glad they did.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#47778: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:40:45 PM

Wow, I can't believe Navy is a sadistic little shit.

I love it.

Oh really when?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47779: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:40:50 PM

Honestly, complaining about the show getting off model and shit is like complaining about Ren and Stimpy going off model.
To get even broader, I'll quote the creator of The Wire: "Film is artifice."

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47780: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:41:01 PM

Garnet considered that she could've gone the other way...

But considering what happened, that would've just been short term...

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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#47781: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:43:21 PM

I was thinking she might steal the ship back but I never imagined she'd be so malicious about it. P.S. I can imagine when she shows up again Steven would have an O.O.C. Is Serious Business moment like he had with Kevin.

rmctagg09 The Wanderer from Brooklyn, NY (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
The Wanderer
#47782: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:45:19 PM

I feel like this episode was made to show the folly of going, "Rubies are dumb".

Hugging a Vanillite will give you frostbite.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47783: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:46:50 PM

They still are dumb though, just to be clear...

But a stroke of genius always appears...through malicious reasons.

edited 10th Mar '17 5:47:59 PM by randomness4

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#47784: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:47:53 PM

It's more showing the folly of assuming Dumb Is Good.

Oissu!
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47785: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:49:56 PM

That hasn't been explored yet, had the Ruby in this episode actually been the dim one...that might've been something interesting to see.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47786: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:50:43 PM

Wow, I can't believe Navy is a sadistic little shit.
I'm genuinely uncertain if she's really a complete sadist, or was mixing an act of revenge with a pragmatic measure.

Either way, I think that her claim that she can't get angry (or at least show anger) is actually true.

I can imagine when she shows up again Steven would have an O.O.C. Is Serious Business moment like he had with Kevin.
I don't expect Steven to hold unrestrained contempt for her, if that's what you mean. Navy really did have an understandable reason to want to get back at them.

Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#47787: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:51:05 PM

Wow, I can't believe Navy is a sadistic little shit. I love it.

This sums up my feelings pretty well.

The rubies are dumb. This was a rare moment of semi-cleverness. Like a dog who can't figure out how to get past a row of soda cans but figured out how to open the fridge.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47788: Mar 10th 2017 at 5:56:49 PM

Saying "the Rubies are dumb" seems to be at odds with Navy actually managing to trick them.

Oh God! Natural light!
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47789: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:03:12 PM

I honestly think Navy is reasonably intelligent, and that this wasn't just a fluke. Even back in "Hit the Diamond", some people figured she went along with the game because she enjoyed it, not because she was tricked.

It's more showing the folly of assuming Dumb Is Good.
Except the "I was never really on your side" part coincided with the reveal that she wasn't a complete idiot. The expectation was that Navy was dumb and good, but it wasn't subverted by revealing she was dumb and bad, it was that she was neither dumb nor good.

Eyeball is a better example of what your talking about: Her idiocy lead her to try to murder Steven even when that would screw herself over as well.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#47790: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:04:50 PM

[up][up][up] True but she also emotional manipulated him and brought him along just to see the look of betrayal on his face.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#47791: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:11:57 PM

That was a pretty good episode! Though for the first time I actually noticed how iffy the Off-Model could be whereas it was never something that bothered me before. Especially that scene in the cornfield, Lapis really didn't look like herself and Peridot's head shape kept changing from scene to scene.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#47792: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:13:36 PM

Lapis's hair poof bothered me, as well as her stumpy limbs.

Also, I'm disappointed Peridot's hair didn't go completely limp when she got wet.

Oissu!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47793: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:13:54 PM

This episode was great, and I immediately expected something to go wrong, but when it did, it was pretty fun regardless.

Regarding the Off-Model animation... yeah, this episode looked bad. Off-Model animation can be used to beautiful and great effect, when it's done right. See: Mob Psycho 100, where Off-Model animation is used constantly to heighten the storytelling, comedy, and drama. The difference here, is that Off-Model animation is inherently risky. If you're going to do it, you need to be DAMN sure you know what you're doing, and you need to know that it looks good and is going to pay off.

Off-Model animation is a tool, much like any other style of animation, but it is a particularly risky tool, that needs to be used properly and carefully. Using it as a lazy excuse to not have to put any actual effort into consistently drawing characters well is disgraceful, and hurts the reputation of other series' animators who actually put genuine effort into their Off-Model animation by leading the general public to automatically associate Off-Model animation with bad animation, regardless of quality.

Drawing characters on-model should be the goddamn standard, and Off-Model animation should only be used as a way to artistically heighten the storytelling, not as an excuse to be lazy.

edited 10th Mar '17 6:18:05 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#47794: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:17:48 PM

Off Model should cover only animation errors, not stuff like skewing consisency and/or proportions intentionally. Though I'm arguing semantics here.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#47795: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:18:30 PM

Episode looked fine to me

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47796: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:19:34 PM

It looked a little strange, I'll admit.

But I really don't care about it. I have an artstyle I prefer, and that's really all there is to it for me.

Oh God! Natural light!
Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#47797: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:19:43 PM

It looked okay until like, 6:15. I don't want to assume they're lazy for it, it's just. Ganbatte....You can...you can do it, guys...

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47798: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:20:43 PM

They'll do it however they please.

Oh God! Natural light!
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47799: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:28:36 PM

This episode was bad, but it wasn't anywhere near the first few episodes level of terrible. I just really needed to get that little rant above off my chest.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#47800: Mar 10th 2017 at 6:29:00 PM

What was wrong with it?

Oh really when?

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