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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47601: Mar 4th 2017 at 7:50:18 PM

Season 2 didn't really have much of a big finale either, but I think that partially had to do with the fact that they restructured the show into being five seasons instead of three way way back.
But the midpoint was extremely eventful—we met Yellow Diamond, Peridot became a Crystal Gem, Malachite reappeared and was defeated, and the Cluster was bubbled, also in the space of four episodes.

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#47602: Mar 4th 2017 at 7:53:33 PM

Five actually (It Could've Been Great —> Message Received —> Log Date 7 15 2 —> Super Watermelon Island —> Gem Drill), but the latter two were in Season 3, not Season 2.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#47603: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:08:13 PM

My own White Diamondwild mass guess, as a way of explaining why she hasn't appeared yet, is that where Blue wants to hoard reminders of Pink Diamond and Yellow wants to destroy them, White wants nothing to do with them and is content to keep the heck away. Basically she's in denial to the other two's Anger and Depression

Actually, someone said way back that so far, the Diamonds' reaction to losing Pink has mirrored the Crystal Gems' reaction to losing Rose. Amethyst represented Anger and Pearl Depression, but Garnet is closer to Acceptance than any of the other stages. Though it could be denial desguised as Acceptance in White's case.

edited 4th Mar '17 9:08:35 PM by SalFishFin

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47604: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:19:39 PM

[up] I like how that works from a Foil standpoint.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47605: Mar 4th 2017 at 9:44:03 PM

[up][up]with Garnet is more about dealing with the responsability that anything else, granted a lot of that is difficult to said since the show dosent really add much deph to her outside fusion, it have become something of problem with Garnet, she is something of a one trick pony.

Also the issue with the theory is that it said Peridot is insensitive, and while that is true....ALL gems are in some way, even Garnet crack a joke at Amthyst expense in Lion debut episode, is kinda why Steven is necesary for the show.

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#47606: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:46:33 PM

That is a very interesting duality, that I would love for them to follow up on. Maybe have a message of 'no-one wins in war, not even the victors'.

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#47607: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:50:36 PM

I want them to say that war is terrible and has horrific consequences; physically, culturally, emotionally, and mentally. But sometimes, people will not stop killing, harming, or destroying, and must be stopped with violence. And thus, sometimes violent conflict is necessary.

edited 4th Mar '17 10:51:40 PM by SilentColossus

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#47608: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:55:00 PM

Sometimes you just gotta beat somebody's ass,

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#47609: Mar 4th 2017 at 10:57:57 PM

Indeed.

It is no coincidence that Jasper and Eyeball's conflicts were in the same arc, and Bismuth an episode before it. All the while we were learning what happened to Pink Diamond. You should always seek out the peaceful option, but sometimes, people will not accept peace, or any peace worth accepting. Do we accept "peace" when that peace includes enslaving a segment of the population?

edited 4th Mar '17 10:58:26 PM by SilentColossus

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#47610: Mar 5th 2017 at 3:08:15 AM

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47611: Mar 5th 2017 at 4:13:07 AM

but the latter two were in Season 3, not Season 2
But this in response to saying they were written as one season.

Victin Since: Dec, 2011
#47612: Mar 5th 2017 at 6:56:40 AM

I'm reminded of Avatar: The Last Airbender. Specifically, Steven reminds me of Aang at the end of the series, who refused to kill the Big Bad.

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#47613: Mar 5th 2017 at 7:10:05 AM

> Do we accept "peace" when that peace includes enslaving a segment of the population?

If there is no other option and resistance means the death of an entire species then some might look on those terms favourably,even if the peace means "we'll exterminate you eventually"

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#47614: Mar 5th 2017 at 8:54:28 AM

An interesting post about Amethyst's character development throughout the series and how that led up to Amethyst not needing wrestling anymore in "Tiger Philanthropist."

"Tiger Philanthropist" analysis.

Anyway, more relevant to the topic at hand, I thought the Crewniverse said that season designations didn't really indicate anything about story arcs? Like, seasons are divided pretty arbitrarily, so there aren't intentional season finales and stuff. I could have sworn I read that somewhere.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#47615: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:00:38 AM

No one has Lars' rant about changing characters? Because Fastlane is tonight and I really feel like Roman Reigns took his advice to heart.

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#47616: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:11:21 AM

[up][up]

I think Ian JQ said that a while back after Season 2 got split in half.

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#47617: Mar 5th 2017 at 9:22:15 AM

Ah, okay. I'm glad I didn't just imagine that. tongue

I dunno, I haven't really been minding the slow, plotless pace of the Season 4 episodes. I am really excited for "Room for Ruby", though.

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#47618: Mar 5th 2017 at 10:42:32 AM

You know, I wouldn't really be disappointed if Amethyst was just finished with her character development.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47619: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:21:56 AM

[up]She kinda did in a way, amathyst devolptment is not about her learing to be better but how her dealing she is not as bad as she think it is.

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#47620: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:26:28 AM

[up] Precisely. For her, it's not about having the power to change; it's about having the courage to accept what she can't.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47621: Mar 5th 2017 at 11:36:45 AM

[up]And more important that she dosent have reason to change what it is, Pearl and amathyst run contrary in their devolpment, one deal with inside feeling that you cant get away while the is about how everyone look at her, in the case of amathyst she figure out Pearl isnt so mean to her on purpose, that homeworld isnt as perfect or devoid of flaws as they think to be and for last, her "sister" dosent really give a damn about how she look.

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#47622: Mar 6th 2017 at 6:42:39 AM

@47562 What do you mean? Urban Dictionary does not have the sole definition for "filler." TV Tropes has one too, and our definition of Filler - "Filler episodes are entries in a generally continuous serial that are unrelated to the main plot, don't significantly alter the relations between the characters, and generally serve only to take up space. This could be considered Padding applied to a whole franchise" fits episodes like "Tiger Philanthropist" quite well.

@47571 Huh... and that theory doesn't even incorporate all of the evidence at hand - Yellow Diamond's Rubies (at the very least, Doc and Eyeball) also fit the Choleric personality profile, too. For that matter, Crystal Gem Ruby also fits if you remember that she was originally a Blue Diamond Ruby - she's by far the moodiest Ruby we've seen, even if it's mixed with an explosive temper. In short, I like it and I can't wait to see if it gets borne out.

@47575 I think the problem is that season 4's "character heavy episodes" show very little actual development of character. Putting aside my thoughts on "Tiger Philanthropist" as an episode (basically, it was cotton candy - tasty, but no real substance and I'm still hungry for the good stuff), all of the characters are basically the same as they were at the start of the episode. Steven and Amethyst were static, and everyone else were effectively props. I get that you need to cool your heels a little after a huge set of episodes like the "Out Of This World" bomb, but I feel like they could be doing more now.

@47584 With the luxury of having binged on the show, Steven having some degree of Super-Strength has always been there. It's just explicitly at a lower level than the other Crystal Gems (at least, the main 3 - Lapis has never been put in a situation to show it off, and it's suggested that Peridot is on the weak side due to being an Era 2 gem, back in "The Kindergarten Kid"). The only time it ever gets remarked upon, though, is when Marty makes a comment about what Greg feeds Steven in "Drop Beat Dad." Though I seem to remember that there's a passing mention of it in "Know Your Fusion."

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WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#47623: Mar 6th 2017 at 4:50:24 PM

The ship(s ?) from "Friend Ship" and "Monster Reunion," are they the era one light kites that Peri mentioned in "Adventures in Light Distortion"?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47624: Mar 6th 2017 at 6:19:54 PM

are they the era one light kites that Peri mentioned in "Adventures in Light Distortion"?
Yes

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#47625: Mar 6th 2017 at 9:00:29 PM

So how low do ratings get before they get bad?

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