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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#47301: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:14:39 AM

Sometimes, the Bellweathers win.

32_Footsteps Think of the mooks! from Just north of Arkham Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Think of the mooks!
#47303: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:33:33 AM

I think the problem that they have in juggling the real life prejudice against some of the themes is that there's a definite difference in dynamic based on what gems are - super-powerful magical warriors that can ignore whatever they want from humanity. It's a lot easier for the gems to deal with Andy's ranting, because that's all he really can do to them, push comes to shove (I mean, seriously, even if he did get pissy and tried to evict Peri and Lapis, how the hell does he think he's going to do that, even if the two don't pull out their ferrokinesis/hydrokinesis). Similarly, with Ronaldo, the most he can do negatively is whine about the Crystal Gems. In real life, though? People quite rightly fear for their jobs, their homes, their loved ones, and most importantly their lives when dealing with that kind of attitude.

Pushing for understanding is way easier when one party isn't desperately afraid that the other is going to ruin their life.

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AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#47304: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:07:53 AM

I'm not really seeing how Rocknaldo was a potshot at otherkin so much as people who have Chuunibyou or take roleplaying too seriously. Otherkin literally think they're fictional characters reborn, sometimes to the point of telling people to stop sharing or making things of certain characters because they think those people are portraying "themselves" incorrectly. Those people usually need genuine psychological help, and the show was not making fun of those kinds of people.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#47306: Feb 27th 2017 at 11:14:33 AM

I don't think it was meant to be insulting to otherkin, but an otherkin could be offended if they took Ronaldo as being mistreated because he's kin. Which I don't personally think is the point but I see why it could happen.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#47307: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:48:31 PM

I still think people drastically exaggerate the negative aspects of some characters. Andy never even pushed any conservative issues. He was just surprised a lot. To be clear, on the one issue he did blow up about, taking out the engine of his childhood plane and turning it into an oven, I'm on his side there, that's just a gutpunch to the childhood. Andy never once enforced any outright bigoted viewpoints.

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#47308: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:54:37 PM

the one issue he did blow up about

He blew up about Greg not marrying "an American" and later about Greg never marrying Rose at all.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#47309: Feb 27th 2017 at 1:57:41 PM

He was surprised about those things, but he dropped the issue after his initial comment of surprise. The plane engine was the only issue he actually fumed over and pushed as something he was bothered by.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47311: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:30:35 PM

who may be a pedo

what

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47312: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:31:54 PM

Them be the jokes...

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#47313: Feb 27th 2017 at 2:32:05 PM

[up][up][up] What's a dixit?

edited 27th Feb '17 2:32:17 PM by Crossover-Enthusiast

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#47314: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:01:34 PM

I'm still kinda surprised that so many people are interpreting Rocknaldo as being about fandom? I thought it was about shitty allies to marginalized communities. >.>

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47315: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:02:51 PM

Maybe it's both?

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
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#47316: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:04:27 PM

True.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47317: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:04:53 PM

I thought it was about shitty members of marginalized communities.

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#47318: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:06:38 PM

> Andy is clearly portrayed as the conservative uncle who may be a pedo (Cracked dixit) thorugh the episode.

There is absolutely no such evidence of this and I re watched the episode

If that was your attempt at being funny I suggest working on your humour material.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47320: Feb 27th 2017 at 3:15:07 PM

Actually, the joke was "if you want to see male gem, you can see Age of Ultron" because Vision....pretty cleaver joke actually.

Andy didnt expose conservative values but IT show the personality, being upset Greg change is name, that he didnt marry and many other thing "tradicional" and calling the gem hippies is a cliche of conservative in shows.

But I dont think he is a bad character and to be fair, the gem at times dosent act very diferent: Pearl act dismissive toward amathyst in the first season, Garnet seen unconcern about the damage she prove in fights and Amathyst did the shapeshifting thing in from of Greg which is REALLY uncalled for, they come from a conservative society and it show, not matter how much space rocks they are.

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#47321: Feb 27th 2017 at 9:39:04 PM

No it wasnt, Matt Burnett went something along the lines of "If you want a dudebro show watch Avengers Assemble". I love Steven Universe and Im on their side, but dont sugarcoat or deny the dickishness the crew displays sometimes.

Rebecca Sugar has never said such things. I love her.

I also ask Beatman 1 to calm down. You are being quite hystrionic. Even more so than the fandom extremists you hate.

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#47322: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:09:02 PM

Yeah, Matt's kind of a dick. >.>

And Avengers Assemble is a pretty awful show.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47323: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:17:34 PM

Recommendations aren't awful...

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47324: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:18:31 PM

He should've suggested Earth's Mightiest Heroes.

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Funny but not helpful
#47325: Feb 27th 2017 at 10:23:00 PM

Here is the actual exchange

He says Avengers DV Ds and doesn't specify a show

edited 27th Feb '17 10:28:42 PM by Bocaj

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