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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47151: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:55:02 PM

And there's probably a moral somewhere in there, but I just couldn't sit through it.
Getting someone to learn something takes patience and honesty?`

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47152: Feb 25th 2017 at 1:24:00 PM

[up] Sort of? But it feels like a lesson that the show's already done with Lapis and Peridot, and better at that. And even then if the episode is enjoyable then the moral falls flat regardless.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47153: Feb 25th 2017 at 1:32:23 PM

Morals don't fall flat...

An unenjoyable episode just makes ya not care.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47154: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:22:11 PM

I thought this episode was fine, really.

What does piss me off is that apparently an episode telling fans not to be assholes is making fans act like assholes.

Because that is the state of this fucking fandom, apparently.

Oh God! Natural light!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47155: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:23:09 PM

Some people are saying this episode was attacking SJW culture apparently? I have no idea how that's even possible from watching this.

Seems weird that the fandom would be getting mad about this episode when everyone expected it to suck.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#47156: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:29:27 PM

Every fandom has its negative elements, the bigger it is the more angry fans can shout in an echo chamber. That's basically it.

I've seen a lot of great stuff the fandom has to offer, and for the vast majority, especially those of an LGBT lifestyle, it's resonated strongly.

Don't let a bunch of jerks spoil it.

That's why I stick away from art, posts, or reviews that raise my warning flags. They aren't worth my energy and emotional investment.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47157: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:29:37 PM

It just wasn't enjoyable, personally speaking. You can reason how it wasn't as bad as people say, but ultimately there are a thousand things I would have rather seen happen in a Beach City townie episode than Ronaldo being an asshole and Steven being annoyed by that.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47158: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:32:45 PM

They can...officially retire Ronald if you'd like, he's served a good term, but maybe it's time for a new lunatic with semi-decent social skills.

Ronald can run away to be with his new family: the bus stop.

edited 25th Feb '17 2:33:41 PM by randomness4

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47159: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:34:20 PM

[up][up][up] Yeah, I know. I'm just ranting.

[up][up] I mean, that's fine. But from what I'm hearing (which is admittedly little and secondhand), you'd think that Rebecca Sugar killed these people's dogs or something.

edited 25th Feb '17 2:34:35 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#47160: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:37:19 PM

I admit when I realized that this is a Ronaldo episode my reaction, "Oh wow what's he gonna do now." in a worried tone.

I was vindicated when he said he was gonna join the CG's. I was cringing at the stuff he was doing & couldn't watch most of the episode. I felt so bad for Steven cause Ronaldo was acting like such a jackass.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#47161: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:41:50 PM

Episode would have been improved with Connie beating Ronaldo's ass. That's all I'm saying.

My various fanfics.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47162: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:47:29 PM

Episode would have been improved with Connie beating Ronaldo's ass.
I could actually see that happening, by accident, at some disastrous attempt at a training session.

But accidentally hurting her teammate Jeff-style really would make Connie seem less trustworthy.

edited 25th Feb '17 2:47:41 PM by thatother1dude

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#47163: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:47:33 PM

[up][up] I find it hard to disagree with that.

edited 25th Feb '17 2:48:51 PM by KarkatTheDalek

Oh God! Natural light!
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#47164: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:49:09 PM

Hell, she doesn't even have to hurt him. Just break his shit-ass convention prop sword by staring at it real hard would probably reduce Ronaldo into a blubbering pile whining about how he was being oppressed.

My various fanfics.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47165: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:51:18 PM

Breaking props is illegal...and rude.

Amethyst has been positive this episode...

edited 25th Feb '17 2:54:24 PM by randomness4

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47166: Feb 25th 2017 at 2:56:22 PM

Unless he actually tried to spar with it, then it'd be his fault for acting like it wasn't just a piece of plastic.

Amethyst has been positive this episode.
She seemed like she would have let him join even without Steven's recommendation just to amuse herself.

edited 25th Feb '17 2:56:29 PM by thatother1dude

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#47167: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:01:21 PM

What's wrong with the man, specifically in his thinking he's an actual Gem. The whole I don't need to eat or sleep spiel, is he insane or just plain moronic?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47169: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:03:57 PM

Hold on, wait a sec. Lauren Zuke wrote this, right?

Maybe this was their response to the harassment the fandom gave them.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47170: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:05:14 PM

That seems like a terrible idea, whether or not it happens to be true.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47171: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:05:44 PM

The whole I don't need to eat or sleep spiel, is he insane or just plain moronic?
People often underestimate how much they need sleep, though not this much.

I half expected Steven to ask if he thought he didn't need to eat either.

Maybe this was their response to the harassment the fandom gave them.
General experience online maybe, but the specific incident that caused Zuke to leave Twitter was much too recent.

Even then, the GIFT is an intrinsic part of that incident, while Ronaldo spent most of this episode interacting in person and doesn't even try to hide his identity online in the first place.

edited 25th Feb '17 3:12:37 PM by thatother1dude

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47172: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:13:36 PM

"If you wanted to see Pearl at her worst, then it was entirely necessary... "

problem is, we already seen worst Pearl: we see her trying to fly a spaceship that almost kill Steven because of that, yelling at everyone because she know Rose btter than anyone, trigging one of the few berserket buttons garnet have by taking advantage of fusion(which consider it represent relationships can be seen from cheating, abusing or even rape if you super cynic), being mean to Amathys over and over and the list go on, do we REALLY need another worst pearl moment? specially one is kinda creepy as trying to pulling steven gem?

Yeah, I dont think so.

"Honestly Worst Pearl was when she let Steven apparently fall to his death and just glared at him."

actually, that is the botton line for worst Pearl, from that she go up(which a few moment here and there) that is when she improved.

"They really need to adress what kind of relationship Rose and Pearl had. I only hope they will not play the Shayamalayan twest card. "

they kinda will, after all, they cant define the relationship without lay out Pearl past, I feel only after that we will see the Mystery girl again.

"this episode isn't 'cringey' in any way, shape, or form"

the premise itself IS cringeyy, since Ronaldo move from "Rock people are evil" to "I WILL BE A GEM" between one moment to another, that is just....weird.

"The hatred towards Ronaldo - and Andy - makes me consider the pitfalls of discussing social issues using fantastic elements."

Not really, is just that Ronaldo and Lars BARELY have any devolpment at all: Lars is a jerkass that nobody likes except Sadie who also have a pretty damn weird(and somewhat toxic) relationships while Ronaldo move from being a jerkass to being fall into is ass,the show never it dosent move beyond them like it did with Kevin that but neither let them improve.

In fact what you can consider double standar is how the show give nanuce to two space conqueror or an abuser like Jasper over gag chararters who somehow keep getting episode dedicate to them.

edited 25th Feb '17 3:26:39 PM by unknowing

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47173: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:44:47 PM

I think that Ronaldo would be better if he had better characters to play off against cough Peridot cough. He's a funny character, this episode just brought out the worst in him.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47174: Feb 25th 2017 at 3:49:15 PM

[up]I think Peridot and Lapis could be the best for him: the first is as nerotic as him while the second just dosent give a shit.

Also, while this episode is annoying for me nothing beat the one were he take steve because he have a lizard costume, that was...unconfortable to watch.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#47175: Feb 25th 2017 at 4:08:34 PM

Ronaldo just doesn't have any appealing traits to him.

He's an annoying little conspiracy-theorist who thinks anyone who doesn't agree with him is 'in on it'.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.

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