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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47126: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:15:59 AM

[up][up]Nah, I'm sure the plot could've moved on without that scene...

It was mostly there for audience benefit...history repetition.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47128: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:19:10 AM

She's not exactly the same...Amethyst now doesn't see Steven as Rosey.

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#47129: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:19:17 AM

Anyone want to give me a Cliff's Notes on the latest episode? I'm not going to watch something if I'll spend the majority of it cringing.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47131: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:28:16 AM

There is a wikpedia summery which sums up the episode

link

not quite cliff notes but if you want to avoid cringing there you go

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#47132: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:33:04 AM

Douchebag Otaku tries to appropriate Steven's culture. Steven tells him to fuck off, still winds up accepting him because Steven is Space Rock Jesus.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47133: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:35:21 AM

My issue with "worst pearl" showing again is that we already saw that in the whole show so it dosent said much anymore and in fact it just stuck more things against her that in her favor since for a moment thought of taking Steven gem which again, was really creepy and somewhat unecesary.

and with amathyst cometing mistake...sure, but it dosent really seen progress to anything in particular seen it never line up with her issues, also she last against Greg of all people, someone who also lost Rose(and you could said is worst because she leave Steven behind with only him to raise) and it seen she is blaming HIM for that....yeah no, that was the lowest point to me.

And by the way, I dont dislike amathyst, I really like who she face Jasper and smokey quartz(even when Jasper was kinda right on something, fusion seen the only really way to beat her) but that episode pretty much sore me so I pretend it didnt exist.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47134: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:58:33 AM

If you wanted to see Pearl at her worst, then it was entirely necessary...

Visually displeased at the event...

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#47136: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:06:21 AM

Honestly Worst Pearl was when she let Steven apparently fall to his death and just glared at him.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47137: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:06:50 AM

> Shayamalayan twest card.

Such as?

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47138: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:11:06 AM

[up][up]Okay...2nd worst Pearl.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#47139: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:14:06 AM

Ronaldo realizes that all his conspiracy theories were wrong and everything is caused by the Gems. He apologizes and tries to fix things by joining the Crystal Gems to help out. He doesn't quite understand how that works, however, and he tries to actually become a Gem, including not sleeping. After about a week of living at the house and not sleeping, Ronaldo is so tired that he's barely making sense, and he throws around a bunch of No True Scotsman fallacies at Steven. Steven feels bad for all of a couple seconds before he realizes that that's bullshit, runs back in and confronts Ronaldo, who faints from lack of sleep. Afterwards, Ronaldo apologizes for acting like a jerk, and promises to spend his time telling others that Crystal Gems are good people.

Seriously, this episode isn't 'cringey' in any way, shape, or form, and you guys are just looking for excuses to hate Ronaldo for no reason. This episode was great.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#47140: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:19:22 AM

We don't need excuses to hate Ronaldo though

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47141: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:25:09 AM

Be creative in your dislike...

You'll be justified every time...

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#47142: Feb 25th 2017 at 11:26:49 AM

If you meant the time from Rose's Scabbard, she may have glared at him when he was jumping (after she asked him repeatedly to leave her alone) but she was horrified when he fell short.

Which based on music cues may have been an early manifestation of Steven's super jump powers.

edited 25th Feb '17 11:27:17 AM by Bocaj

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HextarVigar That guy from The Big House Since: Feb, 2015
That guy
#47143: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:17:49 PM

Sounds like the episode would have been more amusing if he'd been told that gems were super-durable and he jumped from a cliff to prove he could be too.

Your momma's so dumb she thinks oral sex means talking dirty.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#47144: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:24:39 PM

That's just unnecessarily cruel. Ronaldo got some fantastic character development in this episode, and you guys just seem stuck in this mind-set of wanting him to be a Static Character so he can be your own personal Hate Sink.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47145: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:26:37 PM

No, maybe they just want him to die...and then dislike when the episode does make him die because of how cruel it is.

Getting beat up is fine...any character getting beat up is fine.

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#47146: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:27:10 PM

The hatred towards Ronaldo - and Andy - makes me consider the pitfalls of discussing social issues using fantastic elements. It doesn't matter how much Homeworld is used to symbolize racism, homophobia, ableism, or colonialism - people don't see it as that. They might understand it is used to symbolize it, but they don't treat Blue Diamond's hatred of cross-gem fusion (i.e, homophobia) with the same weight they few Andy or Ronaldo. And Jasper is much less willing to budge her views than either of those two humans, and is more violent with it.

Now, I get it. Andy and Ronaldo are much more real. The lack of fantastic elements makes their bigotry much more raw.

And as such, while using fantastic elements can be helpful, it will only get you so far.

Edit: You see something similar with how Homeworld literally treating humans as animals is seen as cute or even benevolent (rather than the zoo being just that; a zoo) by fans, or the fans romanticization of the Pearl slave system.

edited 25th Feb '17 12:34:17 PM by SilentColossus

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#47147: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:33:51 PM

I think it's that, and also the fanbase dramatically exaggerating the negative traits of Andy, Ronaldo, Lars, etc.

InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47148: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:38:40 PM

There's just not much to this episode. I didn't even hate Ronaldo before but this episode made me hate Ronaldo. There's just nothing to this episode beyond Ronaldo acting like an ass, and that just isn't fun, or interesting, and we have so little reason to believe that Ronaldo's development will really stick anymore than the 8 Lars/Sadie episodes have.

He just seems to get a disproportionate amount of focus for a one off gag character and lore dump, especially in comparison to the other, less awful Beach City citizens.

Ronaldo isn't even the worst human on the show, but unlike Lars and Kevin and Marty, Ronaldo is just uncomfortable to watch. He has such a lack of social grace or decency that every scene with him is just bracing yourself for someone else to snap on him for doing something stupid. When he's just being a weird oblivious nerd he's funny, but he spent more time in this episode being an asshole.

And there's probably a moral somewhere in there, but I just couldn't sit through it.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47149: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:39:10 PM

[up][up]But people do that with all characters they dislike immensely...

It's only natural.

[up]Lars didn't get any type of development in any of the episodes he was focused on besides the last one...and it looks like it's sticking.

edited 25th Feb '17 12:41:24 PM by randomness4

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InAnOdderWay Since: Nov, 2013
#47150: Feb 25th 2017 at 12:54:24 PM

[up] Vaguely? Maybe? It's pretty up in the air.

In any case the fact that this episode was boring and sucked had nothing to do with how later episodes may suck less.


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