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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#47101: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:17:21 AM

I never really got the extreme hatred people have for Lars and Ronaldo. I mean, at least they're not Amethyst.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47103: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:26:21 AM

For some reason, mundane Jerkasses are more hated than the actual villains. I think it's a combination of hitting just a bit too close to home for some and not having superpowers or something otherwise awesome to make up the difference.

I've noticed this sort of thing in other places. Mostly My Hero Academia where one of the protagonists, Bakugo, is the childhood bully of the main character, Midoriya. I've seen more vitriol directed at him than actual villains like the Psychopathic Manchild Shigaraki or a guy named Stain, who gets Draco In Leather Pantsed even In-Universe.

In the same vein, people here are more likely to be sympathetic to the genocidal Yellow Diamond before they'd give more than two effs about Lars or Ronaldo.

Late to the Punchline realization... Is Ronaldo's name a reference to Ronald McDonald?

edited 25th Feb '17 8:28:49 AM by sgamer82

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#47104: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:28:14 AM

What's wrong with Amethyst? She's probably in my top five characters, tbh.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47105: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:30:19 AM

By the logic of my post [up][up], everything until the next time she does something amazing

TyeDyeWildebeest Unreasonably Quirky from Big Rock Candy Mountain Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: How does it feel to treat me like you do?
Unreasonably Quirky
#47106: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:30:52 AM

[up][up] I like her too, but I understand why she has a bit of a hatedom. She's done some awful stuff, like shapeshifting into Steven's dead mom to taunt his emotionally broken father.

edited 25th Feb '17 8:31:08 AM by TyeDyeWildebeest

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47107: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:32:40 AM

[up] Isn't/Wasn't she just as emotionally broken, herself though?

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#47109: Feb 25th 2017 at 8:53:43 AM

This reminds me of a similar conversation we had in this thread where we were discussing whether Amethyst or Pearl was the Mabel Pines of Steven Universe. Because they both have a lot of people who really dislike them. (I tend to see an equal amount of Amethyst and Pearl hate, which makes me sad, because I like them both.)

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47111: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:12:23 AM

Overrated is a subjective term...

It doesn't mean anything except to the people who use it.

Amethyst is great, don't even diss.

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Merseyuser1 Since: Sep, 2011
#47112: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:14:14 AM

As hated as Ronaldo is, he reminded me (a bit) of my younger self, aged 16 or so, way back in 2003, although I didn't have Ronaldo's It's All About Me, Occidental Otaku or Psychopathic Manchild tendencies. I did, however, have the Friendless Background he had (when I was 16. Like him, my friends lived outside where I was at the time, miles away in towns like Widnes, Bolton, Radcliffe etc.). I don't know if reading automobile magazines at 16 and learning all the automobile news back then counted as a sort of Otaku thing!

Holly Blue Agate was just so damn scary, and she looked more like something out of Star Trek, and more Ambiguously Human than Gem, more like a blue humanoid, although obviously her body's Hard Light as is canon within the show.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#47114: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:16:39 AM

Some people dislike Amethyst due to her shapeshifting into Rose (Why is Armchair a terrible person?) and because of her actions towards Peridot in Too Far and Too Short to Ride (particularly the latter).

I mean, personally, I think Amethyst has more or less become the Mabel of the show: the character that people either love or hate to death for their own debatable reasons. Pearl used to be that character until she developed enough that the old "thirsty/salty" jokes just don't work anymore. While Amethyst has developed and been given great spotlight episodes (Cry for Help had some tiny character moments for her, plus the entire Smokey Quartz arc was golden), some people might debate over whether or not it's enough.

Personally, I like Amethyst, but I can see where people are coming from when they dislike her.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#47115: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:18:02 AM

[up][up]Everything has below average episodes, everything has terriblé episodes...

All that matters is that those aren't the majority...

Besides, this show is...something.

edited 25th Feb '17 9:18:22 AM by randomness4

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47117: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:43:15 AM

I dislike amathys fot what she did to Greg and because I dont feel the show really understood that she REALLY push something she shoudnt and was waaaaay to easier on her, almost as it forgot what it happen before.

On the other hand I feel garnet is the one with less devolpment, Amathyst is all center on her self steem issues but Garnet is so happy being herself and so stoic is hard to see what the issue with her, the closet thing is her fear to steven being taken out by blue dimond, it will be VERY intersting is the two see again face to face other than that she is pretty much one trick pony

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#47118: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:45:49 AM

[up][up]It's like I've said, the show has all the subtlety of a sledgehammer about its messages. It does not, nor has it ever used subtext. It uses blunt text.

I think that's why "Ronaldo the weeb" comes off as so polarizing. There is no attempt at sugarcoating.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#47119: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:49:45 AM

Is Ronaldo's name a reference to Ronald McDonald?
And Peedee's is a reference to Speedee, their older mascot.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#47120: Feb 25th 2017 at 9:51:17 AM

That would explain why his hair looks like french fries

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47122: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:07:42 AM

I have to admit, I'm curious what will happen when/if Mystery Girl learns about Rose. Was the resemblance only the cause for initial attraction or is Pearl going to unknowingly pursue a Replacement Goldfish

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#47123: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:10:33 AM

[up][up]Pearl have made change, when smokey quartz show again and garnet and pearl defuse, she is been VERY suportic to her and is clear the two have fix their issues.

On the other hand I kinda dislike "three mons an a baby" because it goes bad to "worst pearl" even when it was already done, also the moment she look the gem on Steven belly was really creepy.

edited 25th Feb '17 10:10:54 AM by unknowing

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#47124: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:11:05 AM

I think that a lot of people miss the point about Amethyst shapeshifting into Rose. Yes, what shebdid was wrong. It was supposed to be wrong. It moved the plot of the episode forward and led to her and Greg having issues until she apologized.

It kind of hits the same spot as Jasper, or Pearl when she does bad stuff. Characters do bad things, and it's kind of the point. The show wouldn't be what it is if all the gems were nice or learned from their mistakes immediately. They're supposed to be messed up and do messed up things.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#47125: Feb 25th 2017 at 10:12:43 AM

[up][up] that episode went back to "Worst Pearl" precisely because it took place before her development, so I'm not sure if can really count as a strike against current Pearl

edited 25th Feb '17 10:13:17 AM by sgamer82


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