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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#46501: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:05:21 PM

If Homeworld could just not put resources into fusion then Gems like Sapphires and Pearls wouldn't be able to fuse at all.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46502: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:40:05 PM

have this sinking feeling that being powerless and requiring limb enhancers means that Peridots can't fuse
Peridot would know if she couldn't fuse—she knew she couldn't shapeshift—and never mentioned that when she nearly took Garnet up on her offer to fuse together.

I wonder if the new Rubies are weaker, like Peridot, or if Rubies are produced the same as before.
They need to remain strong to do their jobs at all, so maybe they "economized" brainpower. The Ruby Squad definitely seem less intelligent (or at least less focused) than the team of bodyguards that served Blue Diamond, with the one exception being Eyeball—the only one of them we know to be from Era 1.

Well, if you assume at least one of the Ruby squad are Era 2, then Peridot should be fine as we've seen them all fuse into a giant Ruby twice.
Rubies actually use fusion regularly in combat, though, which is still the only thing Homeworld thinks it's good for.

If Homeworld could just not put resources into fusion then Gems like Sapphires and Pearls wouldn't be able to fuse at all.
Era 1 gems are overengineered—that's why they have stuff like shapeshifting and Super-Strength even when it's of no use for their intended purpose. It's why Pearl is way stronger than a human (or at least why she was capable of getting that strong), but Peridot isn't.

But again, none of this matters, as Peridot clearly thinks she is capable of fusion, and I don't see why she would be wrong about that.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#46503: Feb 7th 2017 at 4:55:02 PM

I wonder if one episode will acknowledge that Steven has these earrings that tell him to do stuff and he has a hard time getting them off. More of a B-plot than an A-plot but it might still happen. Does Steven have pierced ears now? And if so do you think they'd acknowledge it? Will we see him wear earrings every now and again? Will Connie be jealous?

edited 7th Feb '17 4:55:34 PM by WillKeaton

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#46504: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:15:45 PM

If Connie saw how humans were tagged like cattle in some sort of zoo she'd quite rightly be horrified

I can see Steven wearing earrings ,but not that kind

edited 7th Feb '17 5:17:58 PM by Ultimatum

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#46505: Feb 7th 2017 at 5:19:48 PM

I figured the signal from the zoo is too far away for it to bother Steven. He still should get the tag removed though.

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#46506: Feb 7th 2017 at 6:56:09 PM

They may have been clip-ons

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#46507: Feb 7th 2017 at 7:07:25 PM

That is very unlikely. Putting clip-on earrings on creatures with hands isn't going to work out. True the rest of the Zoomans are used to it. But not the newcomers.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46508: Feb 7th 2017 at 7:13:36 PM

It really wouldn't matter if they're clip-ons, a sufficiently disturbed human would just rip it out anyway.

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#46509: Feb 7th 2017 at 7:19:45 PM

Well, that doesn't seem likely to happen...

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
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#46511: Feb 7th 2017 at 8:21:19 PM

Given how Steven reacts in pain, or at least discomfort, when they're put on, and how the "fingers" put them on from both sides, I assume they're piercings. (I actually thought he briefly wore earrings in Sadie's Song, but, whoops, nope.)

I do feel like the earrings and the "little voice" are prime candidates for future developments, though. It could well be that their function is only to transmit sound as instructed by a simple(?) AI housed in the Zoo, which would leave Steven and Greg's earrings far out of range... But I'm not convinced that whatever pseudo intelligence the "little voice" is isn't just contained within the earrings themselves. It feels like either option is equally plausible, and, with that being equal, it seems significant that the earrings weren't just discarded earlier if they're not going to come up again.

But then, this show doesn't actually perfectly follow Conservation of Detail; Just mostly. There's room for a world-building feature to not necessarily be a plot hook.

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#46512: Feb 7th 2017 at 9:02:53 PM

Can WMG.Steven Universe Steven And Gems be changed to WMG/StevenUniverseStevenAndTheCrystalGems? The former title makes it sound like it talks about other Gems besides the Crystal Gems.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46513: Feb 7th 2017 at 9:15:08 PM

If you want to move, I don't think anyone would care. Just remember to cut the old page or at least make it a redirect.

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#46514: Feb 7th 2017 at 10:07:30 PM

Done! I just made it a redirect.

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#46515: Feb 8th 2017 at 7:45:14 AM

Hrm... keep in mind that even old gem technology like the Wailing Stone could still be reached and interacted with by modern gem tech (which is how Lapis was able to send a warning in "The Message"). And those earrings are modern tech. I wouldn't put it past Homeworld to be able to track them if need be. I don't think the Diamonds are coming just yet via those earrings - they wouldn't know to even look at the moment. That said, Holly Blue probably has just as much access to track those earrings, and she certainly has a reason to want revenge on the Crystal Gems. Heck, she could even be selective in how to approach Blue Diamond about it - if she volunteers to go to Earth to get specimens, BD probably would agree, and Holly Blue could pursue a vendetta on the sly as long as she tries to pick up some extra humans while she's at it. So that's my guess - the Homeworld gem that tracks the Crystal Gems via the earrings will be Holly Blue Agate.

For how smart Rubies are then and now... I mean, the Rubies that got poofed in "The Answer" were still pretty dumb and overly vainglorious. Heck, for that matter, the then-future Crystal Gem Ruby wasn't too much better in that episode; I think subsequent episodes show that being fused with Sapphire as part of Garnet for so long has really helped Ruby become more intelligent and clever. Not only that, but Steven's influence has helped as well - go back to "Cry For Help" and "Keystone Motel," and compare how Ruby handled her frustrations then versus how she handled them in the "Out Of This World" bomb. Sure, it helped that it was pretty obvious that Sapphire was on the same page as Ruby in "Out Of This World," but even beyond that, could you imagine Ruby back in Keystone Motel staying in character nearly as well as she did in the bomb?

All in all, I think Amethyst hit it pretty solidly in "Hit The Diamond" - Rubies are pretty dumb, outside of any circumstance that would push a Ruby to grow.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#46516: Feb 9th 2017 at 7:18:47 AM

Back on that point last being discussed: As far as the Famethyst goes, while they may not be particularly loyal to Holly Blue (to put things mildly) or to Homeworld in the abstract, I suspect they're far more loyal to Blue Diamond seeing as she's apparently the one that ordered they be kept in service despite their defects. That makes a full on Heel–Face Turn for them seem somewhat unlikely to me unless Blue Diamond herself comes along with them.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#46517: Feb 9th 2017 at 8:28:11 AM

Which really just enforces how wasteful and uncaring Yellow is. Sure Blue's become a hoarder of the worst possible kind with hundreds of peoples' lives both Gems and humans, but at least she spared them. Yellow just wants them gone, the Earth, the Quartz soldiers, even all the perfectly fine, non-defective ones, every Rose Quartz in existence...

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#46518: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:14:46 AM

Yellow is basically trying to drag Blue out of grieving because she's meant to lead her court,in the most heavy handed way possible,but I don't think Yellow would throw the away the gems produced on Earth,with their resource shortages she probably recognises that they need all the gems they can get,she is after all the military leader and she's thinking in military terms.

Obviously with the exception of the Rose gems,which she wants to eradicate because they are a continual reminder of the rebellion

I do agree that Yellow would most likely dispose of the zoomans though

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#46519: Feb 9th 2017 at 10:44:25 AM

[up] Yellow didn't seem to care about losing the Earth and all its potential resources. That was the whole reason Peridot turned on her, she wasn't being objective. Had she been thinking from a proper military perspective, Peridot might have swayed her. No guarantee, obviously, but Yellow didn't even consider it.

edited 9th Feb '17 10:47:37 AM by sgamer82

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46520: Feb 9th 2017 at 3:30:55 PM

I don't think Yellow would throw the away the gems produced on Earth
Why would want to employee her
subjects that destroyed her?

Blue Diamond is not "employing" the Rose Quartz gems, so she must be talking about the Earth quartzes.

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#46521: Feb 9th 2017 at 3:45:24 PM

I'll concede that Yellow probably intended to convince Blue to shatter the Rose gems,then go something like

"There! that was'nt so was it!Now you can start on the rest of them!"

But the way I heard it it sounded like she just wanted to remove the Rose Gems

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#46522: Feb 9th 2017 at 3:46:13 PM

They didn't bubble the Rose Quartz gems...

Also, that's really not making sense...

Beyond petty of YD...

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#46523: Feb 9th 2017 at 3:51:27 PM

Um yes they were all around them while they were singing

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#46524: Feb 9th 2017 at 4:01:41 PM

The bubbles were pink though...

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#46525: Feb 9th 2017 at 4:02:40 PM

You mean Pink Diamond bubbled her own gems?

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