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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#46051: Jan 28th 2017 at 11:59:21 AM

I'm still calling it that Jasper is gonna be redeemed.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#46052: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:02:45 PM

Just remember that redemption can come at a cost

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AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#46053: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:03:08 PM

Uh...OK?

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#46054: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:04:52 PM

They might pull a Redemption Equals Death

But who really knows?

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#46055: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:06:17 PM

thatd be dumb and unfitting of the show

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#46056: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:09:52 PM

Nobody's going to complete the Super Saiyan speech?

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#46057: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:09:58 PM

Yeah, that'd make no sense anyway.

Oh really when?
Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#46058: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:10:03 PM

It would be a first for the show admittedly,and so manu other tv shows/films have pulled it that it's a cliche at this point

So I'm kinda expecting it to show up at some point,because it nearly always does

But it probably won't

edited 28th Jan '17 12:10:53 PM by Ultimatum

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#46059: Jan 28th 2017 at 12:30:56 PM

[up][up][up] I was unaware that that was an invitation to do so.

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TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#46060: Jan 28th 2017 at 1:39:27 PM

We were on the theme of the similarities between Jasper and Vegeta...

I sort of gave up halfway because there doesn't seem to be a Super Gem prophecy or anything like that. The closest thing Jasper would say is that she's a perfect Quartz, I guess...

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#46061: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:23:32 PM

With Sapphires being able to see the future the absence of a gem prophecy does surprise me ,but that might come later,or at all since that kind of usually appears at the beginning with ambiguous Arc Words slowly being understood over series before the prophecy comes true during a sort season final.

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
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#46062: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:28:02 PM

probably because the future isnt set in stone here

future vision is a thing but it isnt immutable as long as people can make choices

edited 28th Jan '17 4:28:14 PM by MsAmiClassified

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46063: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:40:15 PM

Future Vision doesn't seem that long term either. I don't think it's been used to predict anything more than a few hours ahead of time.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#46064: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:48:38 PM

Oddly in "The Answer" Garnet said that Sapphire had seen in advance every moment of her life and that she had never been wrong before. This is at odds with every other time future vision has been demonstrated, where it's always, "I can see a bunch of possibilities but I'm not 100% sure which one we're actually headed for."

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#46065: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:50:16 PM

I always understood that there was a trade off of sorts. Sapphire's was stronger but only saw a single path, while Garnet had a much wider range of choices in exchange for being weaker in how much/far ahead she could see.

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Funny but not helpful
#46066: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:53:33 PM

I took that to mean that Sapphires are fatalists and are stuck on a single path to the future. When you combine her with a Ruby who goes screw destiny you get Garnet who can choose between futures.

Makes sense based on what we see in Keystone Motel where Sapphire saw an outcome and passively waited for it to happen.

Our Sapphire isn't usually that passive anymore though. Because of Ruby.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#46067: Jan 28th 2017 at 4:57:11 PM

I figured she meant she saw it all of it in advance, but not all at once—i.e. you see find out about everything x days/hours before it happens.

riidenlieko Since: Oct, 2010
#46068: Jan 28th 2017 at 6:28:53 PM

wild mass guessSapphire saw a single future partially because of her (and Homeworld's) fatalism, but also because Gem culture and behaviour was highly organised, with almost everyone following a strict role and acting as expected. Gems also aren't big on personal growth, and are "born ready" with specific abilities.

Fighters fought. Thinkers thought. Diamonds ruled. If anyone stood against that, they were defeated and punished accordingly. And so, the most likely future, the one Sapphire had seen, had always been the one actually happening.

Until Ruby accidentally proved that future vision can be contradicted by... people doing something unexpected. After Ruby tried to save Sapphire, and they ended up fusing into Garnet, she could no longer see the inevitable. Instead, she began to see possibilities.wild mass guess

edited 28th Jan '17 6:29:47 PM by riidenlieko

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#46069: Jan 28th 2017 at 7:35:08 PM

That's shouldn't even count as a WMG.

edited 28th Jan '17 7:35:31 PM by SalFishFin

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#46070: Jan 28th 2017 at 8:09:15 PM

[up][up] Wouldn't that be more of an analysis?

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#46071: Jan 28th 2017 at 9:32:25 PM

I re-watched "Hit The Diamond" today and recall that Sapphire said she did see the baseball thing as a possibility, but thought it unlikely enough that it surprised her when it cam about. So I think now that [up][up][up] may be on to something.

riidenlieko Since: Oct, 2010
#46072: Jan 29th 2017 at 2:34:45 AM

The reason for her future vision having always been right pre-Answer hasn't quite been confirmed to be HW's strict, role-based behaviour, that was technically speaking speculation, even if it's a fairly safe bet. But there's no "mild mass guessing" icon, so...

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#46073: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:23:05 PM

I'm now wondering how many Sapphires there actually are ,I think there's bound to be one for each Diamond,so three?Two if Blue Diamond never replaced the one that left her,it's not likely that a Sapphire is cheap to produce either

edited 29th Jan '17 12:24:01 PM by Ultimatum

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#46074: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:24:48 PM

I think I remember something from The Answer suggesting that Sapphires were rare.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#46075: Jan 29th 2017 at 12:45:06 PM

Rare, but there is probably still hundreds or thousands of them throughout the empire.


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