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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#45626: Dec 22nd 2016 at 6:59:41 PM

Would Rose Quartz be able to see the beauty in Frieza?

"I love your lipstick!"

Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#45627: Dec 22nd 2016 at 7:23:38 PM

"I can see the good in everybody. Even if it is very, very, very small."

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Crossover-Enthusiast from an abaondoned mall (Lucky 7) Relationship Status: Chocolate!
#45629: Dec 23rd 2016 at 1:10:47 AM

I would just like to mention that CN's announcement for SU coming back is just the right size for an icon.

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superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#45630: Dec 24th 2016 at 12:25:59 PM

Yep, it sure is!grin

Pretty sure that's Pink Diamond's palanquin.

Karalora Since: Jan, 2001
#45631: Dec 24th 2016 at 1:12:49 PM

The little aperture is rose-shaped. Just thought I'd point that out.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
superboy313 Since: May, 2015
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#45635: Dec 24th 2016 at 2:40:23 PM

Opening Science doesn't sound nearly as cool.

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Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#45636: Dec 24th 2016 at 3:33:38 PM

> The little aperture is rose-shaped.

Rose having her own palanquin would be rather peculiar,unless she was planning to rule like the diamonds.

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RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#45637: Dec 24th 2016 at 3:48:08 PM

Maybe Pink Diamond had an affinity toward roses. After all pink variants of a lot of gems are called "rose" (insert Gem type here).

The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#45638: Dec 24th 2016 at 3:49:12 PM

Rose Quartz: "The Crystal Gems never told you what happened to Pink Diamond."

Steven: "They told me enough! They told me you killed her!"

Rose Quartz: "No, I am Pink Diamond."

Steven: "No, no, that's not true! That's impossible!"

Rose Quartz: "Search your feelings; you know it to be true!"

Steven: "NOOOO, NOOOOOOO!!!!!"

And then Steven wakes up, with Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back on TV.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#45639: Dec 24th 2016 at 5:24:18 PM

Seriously, what's with that theory about Rose being Pink Diamond in a new body?

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#45640: Dec 24th 2016 at 5:57:41 PM

Steven's ability to take over people's minds, mostly.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#45641: Dec 24th 2016 at 6:15:29 PM

[up][up]If you ask me, it seen more like a way of avoiding the idea that Rose shatter another gem, which is understandable since shatter is quite awfull

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#45642: Dec 24th 2016 at 6:25:08 PM

I don't like that theory. Rose shattering Pink makes for much better drama, and the reveal was too impactful and late to go back on it. It'd be a lie, and a lie is not a twist. In addition, it was revealed in the same arc where Steven encountered multiple enemies who would not relent, which parallels Rose and Steven, and had to be poofed. Or sent into deep space.

It is possible, but I think it would be a bad idea.

edited 24th Dec '16 6:28:27 PM by SilentColossus

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#45643: Dec 24th 2016 at 6:34:45 PM

I mean, I was a supporter of the Rose is Pink Diamond hypothesis. The disappearance of Pink Diamond's symbol on the diamond insignia was clearly foreshadowing something. However after Jasper declared that Rose was Pink Diamond's, and especially after it was revealed that Rose was the one who shattered Pink Diamond, that hypothesis just doesn't make any sense anymore.

edited 24th Dec '16 6:35:22 PM by WillKeaton

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#45644: Dec 24th 2016 at 6:50:23 PM

After it was revealed by an eyewitness, no less. That's the important detail. Even if Eyeball (I think it was Eyeball) isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, you aren't taking that back short of convoluted retcon.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#45645: Dec 24th 2016 at 7:15:19 PM

Also Pearl and Garnet essentially admitted it.

Karalora Since: Jan, 2001
#45646: Dec 24th 2016 at 9:17:44 PM

"Aperture" means "opening".

Yes, I know. I was referring to the slightly larger opening in the latticework. The ornamentation on top also has a petal-like aspect, but the opening is blatant.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#45647: Dec 24th 2016 at 9:23:35 PM

also look at their reactions when Eyeball told the Rubies about her. That's a trigger if I've ever seen one.

Also generally what we know about how Gems work, it never made much sense to begin with. Nobody ever contradicted Rose's Gem shape or personality, and Peridot called Steven some sort of Quartz. Besides, it's what I've been saying all along, complicated doesn't equal better. More often than not, good storytelling goes for the simpler explanation instead of something so convoluted it takes more questions to ask than answers it resolves.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#45648: Dec 24th 2016 at 10:25:11 PM

I was referring to the slightly larger opening in the latticework.
Well, I considered that, but thought it didn't look like a rose at all, not even an abstract one, as it had five petals fully splayed out.

After further research, I've found there are roses that look like that (single roses), but that's not the kind used in Rose Quartz's Flower Motif (full roses).

My point is, that's probably evidence that Pink Diamond is associated with a flower, but not the same kind as Rose is.


Guys, can we stop wasting posts shit-talking some theory that fell out of favor almost a year ago, even before it was explicitly disproved?

No one here has supported any "Rose is Pink Diamond" theory since "Back to the Moon", they just made vague references to people talking about it in other places, inspiring lengthy, often contentious defenses of the obvious, responding to no one.

edited 24th Dec '16 10:43:53 PM by thatother1dude

Karalora Since: Jan, 2001
#45649: Dec 25th 2016 at 7:38:47 AM

It still looks like a rose to me...specifically a heraldic rose. Before modern hybridization techniques were developed, the "standard" image of a rose was a single rose, since that is the wild form. And the number five, besides being the most common number of petals for a wild rose, is also associated with the planet Venus and femininity.

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
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#45650: Dec 25th 2016 at 10:28:28 PM

Wait, so I just returned to the thread... we're still in a hiatus after 3 gems and a baby, right?


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