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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#45276: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:45:45 PM

What a lovely episode. <3 grin

I'd missed good episodes. tongue

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#45277: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:45:46 PM

So Pearl almost killing baby Steven is canon

I like how the Gems still didn't really get it by the end of the episode, even if they realized it is about Steven, and not Rose. Wasn't rushed.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#45278: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:46:50 PM

So I'm just now finding out that the thread didn't suddnenlyngo silent eleven days ago, the Thread Watchlist was just malfunctioning.

Did I miss anything good?

edited 1st Dec '16 4:48:06 PM by thatother1dude

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#45279: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:48:54 PM

Not really, we've been incredibly quiet lately.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#45280: Dec 1st 2016 at 4:49:28 PM

That was nice. I like Amethyst and Sapphire's designs. Was nice to see Ame's pilot design become more or less canon.

Also, Pearl handing Ame the teabag was sweet.

Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#45281: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:03:38 PM

Well...that wasn't a bad episode by any means, but I admit I found it a bit underwhelming. This is the soonest we've seen the Gems after Steven was born, but it felt like it was only the last few minutes that offered us any real character insight. In fairness, showing how the Gems dealed with Rose's "death" and coming to love Steven is something that could take up multiple episodes.

Amethyst not understanding that Rose wasn't just shapeshifting reminds me of a very young child not understanding the concept of death, and just seeing it as the person going away for awhile.

I was surprised at how cheerful Garnet was at the start, until we find out that even she didn't understand what Rose was doing. I know she's not very human-savvy, but I always imagined her as understanding better than anyone what Rose's sacrifice meant.

Pearl was being a defect again, no surprise there.

In closing, Amethyst's face was drawn weird for half of this episode.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#45282: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:10:05 PM

[up] I agree that it felt like the episode was just biding time until they could get to the serious part of "The Gems don't know what they're doing", but overall I still liked the episode.

Like I said in the subreddit, other sci-fi shows usually take the concept of "aliens don't know how humans work" and play it for laughs. This show actually took it semi-seriously, and it benefitted their Character Development for it.

Also, imagine if Pearl actually did pull out Steven's gem. Losing someone you're in love with to someone else is one thing. Having them turn into someone completely different is another. But imagine killing them in an attempt to save them. That would be horrifying for her. Although, would Rose's gem be unable to work if it was pulled out of him? I know what would poof a Gem would just kill him, but what about pulling it out?

edited 1st Dec '16 5:14:24 PM by BlueBlaze64

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#45283: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:14:29 PM

Sugar did another interview, this time about song-making.

“I Could Never Be (Ready)” came in part because I was asking a friend about his baby daughter and wondering how he knew he’d be ready to have a baby. He told me you can never be ready and that that’s something a lot of people say, but it’s really true. That’s half the reason I wrote the song, but the other half is a secret I’ll only tell when the show is over.
I often write songs when I’m going through a hard time, to help me organize my thoughts: How I feel about something, how I want to feel about something. “I Could Never Be (Ready)” is definitely one of those. I want to accept that things start and end and that’s beautiful, and that’s life. But it makes me terribly sad, I’m such a creature of habit and I hate change, and I don’t want to accept that things end and that people leave. I think for this song, I was trying to make peace with the fact that I’m not at peace with change.
Really makes it sounds like that other reason was about the idea of the show ending.

When that happens, I’ll leave a trail of lyrics everywhere, scrawled out on concept drawings for other episodes I’m working on at the time, or on notepads, Post-its, sketchbooks, whatever’s near me when I think of something.
I do so stuff like that, but with fragmented sections of a post or word document, so it's much less visually impressive.

Some other stuff:

  • “I Could Never Be (Ready)” was written in a day, but some other songs take much longer—"It's Over" "took months" and many rewrites.
  • "Love Like You" had the melody written first by Aivi and Surasshu, then Sugar came up with the lyrics.
  • It was mentioned previously that Estelle contributed to "Stronger Than You", but Sugar also says Kate Micucci (Sadie) came up with the bridge and idea for the lyrics of “Haven’t You Noticed (I’m a Star)”.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#45284: Dec 1st 2016 at 5:24:15 PM

Missed episode...3 Gems and a Baby.

But today is thursday, so it's my fault.

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Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#45285: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:01:01 PM

I'm not used to this thread being so dead after a new episode. Did the Steven Nuke burn you all out?

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#45286: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:09:50 PM

Do we know when the next episode is coming out? Or what it's called?

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#45287: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:35:26 PM

[up]The respective answers are "Next year." and "No."

Ninjaxenomorph The best and the worst. from Texas, Texas, Texas Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
The best and the worst.
#45288: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:47:47 PM

There's just not a lot to talk about in this one. I feel it could have been great if it were longer, or they spent more time focusing on certain parts. I'll say that I laughed hard when Steven started crying when Garnet unfused, that is exactly what a baby would do

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#45289: Dec 1st 2016 at 6:52:47 PM

Seeing OG Pearl drawn on model and...significantly thicker thighs (for some reason) looks really weird, bein' honest here.

Change is weird. That style needs to stay in off-model town back in Season 1A.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#45290: Dec 1st 2016 at 7:25:19 PM

I think the cutest thing for me in this episode was Pearl making Greg tea. Friendship!

My various fanfics.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#45292: Dec 1st 2016 at 7:55:35 PM

This episode was so good. The gems not understanding what Steven was and coming to their own conclusions was too funny.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#45293: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:07:48 PM

I liked it. It's not a massive episode, it's a quiet, contemplative look at what happened after the kind of event we were expecting.

Again, the show takes its time. Be patient.

I like that it highlights just how confused and lost they all were. You get the feeling Rose really couldn't have imagined how hard this would leave her friends when she did this. Or if she did, she believed the massive changes that would bring would be worth it in the end, which is what I'm thinking of at the moment for her main motivation.

Change through growth is a definite theme the show's been building up throughout its run.

Anyone else think Steven losing his Gem might come up soon? "Bubbled" went out of its way to point out the concept, and it shows up again here through implication.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#45294: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:09:44 PM

Now we know why Garnet waited so long to show Steven Ruby and Sapphire. Because the last time she unfused, Steven cried!

I liked this episode. It was very cute.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#45295: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:11:05 PM

She waited until after he learned about the concept of fusion...

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#45296: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:15:47 PM

I would imagine Steven losing his Gem would, at best, result in a huge bleeding hole in his stomach and a complete loss of his magic powers, and at worst, 50% of his genetic material ceases to be projected, he loses half of his biomass, and he dies instantly in a small, unrecognizable blob of incomplete flesh.

RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#45297: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:18:14 PM

Yeah I can't see Steven losing his Gem under any circumstances. Best case scenario it's a massive change in the show's premise, worst case scenario our protagonist is dead.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#45298: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:18:34 PM

[up][up]That sounds dark as dung, [tup]

Too bad the show won't go into the specifics of it, a nice idea though.

edited 1st Dec '16 8:18:53 PM by randomness4

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SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#45299: Dec 1st 2016 at 8:43:18 PM

Reminds me of the theory that Steven would become human, using Archimicarus doing the same as foreshadowing. Never liked it.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#45300: Dec 1st 2016 at 9:40:31 PM

I'd be extremely surprised if he could survive indefinitely with the gem removed, the real question is if he would die instantly or could recover if it was put back fast enough.

Having to recover from such a thing is an interesting idea. It would be another "Steven needs to control his powers or they'll ruin his life" plot, but would be a good opportunity for self-examination because it would probably be harder than "stick the gem back in the hole". And Steven being metaphysically split in two and then pulling himself together Dr. Manhattan-style sounds freakin' dope.

Instant death is not something that going to actually happen, for obvious reasons. But that could reasonably be concluded in-show as the most likely result—or at least one likely enough that they (successfully) decide to avoid testing their hypothesis. That would at least be better than never discussing it.


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