I actually take back what I said on Bill. Any scrublord psychic can stomp Bill in the dream realm, he was taken care of by a couple of snotnose kids with relatively little struggle.
The issue is that Bill, left to his own devices, is a straight up, no exaggeration, reality warper. I wouldn't go so far as to call him an omnipotent, and he certainly wasn't omniscient, but without a really, really damn strong magic/psychic user on your team you're almost certainly fucked.
The Lich is a different matter altogether.
Little struggle until he just stopped everything and left...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.But we're getting off-topic here so would the Lich or Bill, based on how they're portrayed, work as villains in SU.
edited 22nd Nov '16 8:42:19 PM by superboy313
I do agree that Bill was more powerful than he let on in "Dreamscaperers". I'm not saying that he would have killed Dipper and Mabel if he had really tried...but he probably could have.
Superboy, I have to admit, you ask these questions a lot, and they're honestly kind of difficult to answer, mostly because it can feel like you're trying to fig a square peg into a round hole. Both Bill and the Lich are very different and considerably more powerful than what we've seen here, and the dramatic shift in tone they bring (very dark comedy and outright horror, respectively) clashes with a lot of the Steven Universe aesthetic. I'm not saying they couldn't be made to work here, but it'd be rather difficult.
edited 23rd Nov '16 12:45:17 AM by KarkatTheDalek
Oh God! Natural light!We don't know quite what Homeworld is capable of. They do seem to have the knowledge to create pocket dimensions (The Temple, Lion, the Roaming Eye) and Time Travel. Bill did handle Time Baby easily, though.
I'm talking more generally who would win terms here. For starters, if Bill is a jobber in universe, he'd probably job hard in a fight too. It doesn't matter how strong you are, if you aren't willing to make good use of it it's generally meaningless.
Regardless, none of the kids had ANY supernatural mental abilities in the dreamscape. He was done in by simple mind erase, which implies that his defenses aren't THAT strong. Bill may be more powerful than he's letting on, but does he really need to be, for the purposes of plot? In that case you could just say that Soos is an omnipotent that just doesn't use his full force in any scenarios that appear in the terms of the plot.
In any case, Homeworld definitely couldn't take Bill. Not that Bill would be able to find the necessary cracks in reality to escape either.
for some reason they are talking about gravityfalls and weather bill Cipher or the Lich from Adventure Time could do something in Steve Universe
edited 23rd Nov '16 9:11:23 AM by Ultimatum
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Just some stupid shit I came up with.
Anyways, let's forget about the whole power things, alright?
Bill has a Freudian Excuse much like Lapis or Jasper. Does he fit in with the tone of SU?
edited 23rd Nov '16 9:18:32 AM by superboy313
anyway
The Gravity Falls thread is that way —————————->
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverSorry to backtrack but I was asleep and wanted to throw in my two cents.
A difference between Kevin and Jasper is that while Kevin is a jerk, he seems completely satisfied with his life. He's a rich jerk that likes to tweak people.
Jasper has been in a series of shitty situations since we met her that could be alleviated by a redemption arc. Despite her bluster she doesn't actually seem to like herself very much. She has very similar problems as Amethyst, actually. People look at how Peridot and Lapis have changed from their initial appearances thanks to their arcs and want something like that for Jasper.
A redemption arc would move Jasper to a better place than trapped in a fusion, trapped in the ocean, trapped on Earth, corrupted and bubbled. Redemption wouldn't change Kevin's situation very much. Steven would be okay with interacting with him more but it doesn't seem like he lives in the immediate area anyway.
edited 23rd Nov '16 10:16:44 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersPossibly some Lapises have their gems on their lower back and look silly when they fly
Forever liveblogging the AvengersI'm just hoping that there will be a "Life on Homeworld" flashback episode (or even series of episodes) that shows what it was like to live on that planet before the rebellion. And since Lapis described it as having changed since she was last there, I'd want to see an episode from her perspective as to what she saw, just to contrast with that first flashback episode.
Maybe Lapis Lazulis used to be high-ranking members of Blue Diamond's court because of elegance or some other nonsense, but aren't anymore because in a new, technocratic, militarized Homeworld, they don't serve a purpose.
"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" CroshawI like the theory that Lapis's are teachers and that Homeworld either has become dependent on tablets to teach Gems what they need to know for their job, or has just figured out how to program that information into a Gem from the get go.
The Crystal Caverns A bird's gotta sing.

You forget that him being physically there is actually very dangerous because of his reality warping...he only needed to make deals to expand the chaos.
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