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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#44526: Oct 28th 2016 at 9:09:08 AM

Reading some of those reviews and noting how squeeful he gets in general and in fusion in particular, I can not wait to see him get to Jailbreak.

Also, now I'm kind of wondering what theories might have been re: Garnet before fusion was shown/Garnet was revealed as one. For example, did people think she has two gems due to being the leader and/or strongest?

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#44527: Oct 28th 2016 at 9:09:51 AM

I get why, but it still irks me just a tad that you have to pay to watch his videos. I do understand why, though.

higurashimerlin Since: Aug, 2012
#44528: Oct 28th 2016 at 10:37:23 AM

They thought she was two gems because we se her gems very early on.

When life gives you lemons, burn life's house down with the lemons.
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#44529: Oct 28th 2016 at 10:50:00 AM

Re: #44525

That's my point though. I came into SU late, already knowing Garnet was a fusion, so I immediately caught the foreshadowing early on when Garnet opened her door with two gems instead of one.

What I was wondering was more if, as you said, people were speculating about fusion before its proper reveal in Giant Woman, and what other speculation might have been going on at the time. Probably not easy to know or confirm either way, though.

edited 28th Oct '16 10:51:26 AM by sgamer82

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#44530: Oct 28th 2016 at 10:53:53 AM

My first episode was the debut of Mirror Gem/Ocean Gem, and I wasn't really connected to the fandom at all, so I didn't expect her to be a fusion. I thought Ruby was going to be an addition to the cast, but once Sapphire popped up I started thinking they may be Garnet.

diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#44531: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:17:20 PM

Yep, the fusions definitely got me interested, Giant Woman was around the time I started to really like the show.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#44532: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:18:04 PM

I think it was a hypothesis around Giant Woman, though more of a joke theory than anything, but it really started to pick up steam after the freeze-frame in Fusion Cuisine. I'm just going off of what I remember from reading this thread while watching the show to catch up.

edited 28th Oct '16 3:11:46 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#44533: Oct 28th 2016 at 2:51:26 PM

After learning Fusion's a thing and that they have multiple gems, it starts to make sense. Also multiple eyes are revealed fairly early on for Garnet.

FerrousMaelstom Since: Apr, 2016 Relationship Status: Drift compatible
#44534: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:30:18 PM

I don't know how early on people figured it out but I was spoiled on Garnet being a fusion and there is quite a lot of evidence if you're looking, although it's still pretty impressive that people correctly theorized.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#44535: Oct 28th 2016 at 3:39:08 PM

My favorite piece of evidence is her keytar in Steven and the Stevens.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#44536: Oct 28th 2016 at 4:06:21 PM

[up] How was that a hint? (Honest question)

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#44537: Oct 28th 2016 at 4:07:40 PM

It's a fusion of a guitar and a keyboard.

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#44538: Oct 28th 2016 at 4:13:13 PM

Ah. Definitely an appropriate choice of instrument then.

SmartGirl333 New account is voidify Since: Nov, 2014
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#44540: Oct 28th 2016 at 4:54:53 PM

I remember considerable speculation that Garnet was a fusion from before "Mirror Gem". No idea how far back it was popularized—I imagine at least a few people thought so as far back as fusion being introduced as a concept because it was so suspicious that Garnet had two gemstones.

Note that this was apparently before "Giant Woman" aired, because the song played at a con and I think Opal had an entry on the CN website before the series premier.

edited 28th Oct '16 4:55:38 PM by thatother1dude

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#44541: Oct 28th 2016 at 8:59:38 PM

I sort of had the same reaction to The Reveal in "Jailbreak" that Doug and Rob Walker had: I didn't see it coming at all, because I didn't think the jokes and little details were foreshadowing. I thought they were just part of Garnet's character. And I felt like such a dumbass in hindsight for not seeing it coming, because things like Garnet having three eyes and two Gems should have made it painfully obvious.

I think I just wasn't giving the show enough credit (or my full attention) until the Sardonyx Arc, because I didn't think at the time that a show like this would have enough depth and foresight, and would have planned a reveal like that from the start.

Speaking of Doug and Rob Walker, have they put up a new vlog since "Alone At Sea"? I know they sometimes miss some stuff in episodes, but their commentary is still interesting to me.

edited 28th Oct '16 9:07:13 PM by BlueBlaze64

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#44542: Oct 28th 2016 at 9:02:21 PM

I came late to the series and got spoiled on garnet sad

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#44543: Oct 29th 2016 at 12:53:19 AM

I came in just as "Jailbreak" aired, so there was a flood of images and info pouring out. I wasn't exactly spoiled, but little things here and there made me think about it, and by the time the stuff with "Giant Woman" and "Alone Together"had been caught up on, I kind of figured it out.

The structured and consistent way Gem powers were introduced, and the fact that from the beginning they're explained at all made me believe there was more going on, and the "Serious Steven" mural and the fact that you have three random women and a dead mom who have mysterious powers and hang out in a sleepy beach town convinced me. If it was just going to be randomness for randomness' sake, there wouldn't be such a specific setup and it would be more one-off individual powers like Adventure Time.

It was obvious from the start to me that unlike AT, this show was built from the ground up with Worldbuilding in mind and there was a story if you were willing to be patient.

More than that though, the bright, optimistic, and refreshing nature of the show just drew me in. Fresh out of depression and starting on mood-stabilizing medication, this was exactly the thing I needed.

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#44544: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:24:42 AM

Want to make "Bismuth" even more intense than it already is? Just add Lapis and/or Peridot. (I'm thinking Lapis)

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#44545: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:33:54 AM

[up]I don't understand what you're talking about. A theoretical version of the episode where either character was there? A future episode with Bismuth and Lapis/Peridot/both? Something else entirely?

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#44546: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:35:27 AM

[up][up]I had a fanfic idea related to that. The Gems un-bubble Bismuth and offer her freedom but make clear they will not use the Breaking Point or anything like it and will fight her if she tries to. Bismuth agrees but the tension is high enough that no one is comfortable so Bismuth goes to the barn, with no one aware of Lapis' connection to her.

edited 29th Oct '16 11:35:49 AM by sgamer82

superboy313 Since: May, 2015
#44547: Oct 29th 2016 at 11:39:14 AM

A theoretical version of the episode where either character was there?
Pretty much. Though I'm leaning more towards the former.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#44550: Oct 29th 2016 at 7:05:24 PM

I find it curious that every major character in season 1 has their season one outfit even though it alludes to twists that happened after the outfits had changed.

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