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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43751: Sep 25th 2016 at 10:34:17 PM

They aren't perfect...

If it wasn't for that one thing that happened, they'd not show those kind of emotions.

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Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#43752: Sep 26th 2016 at 5:32:43 AM

My thought with Jasper was not "black." Amethyst i could see being coded that way, but Jasper's meant to be an homage to Jem And The Holograms, or in a broader sense, that 80s style of Glam Rock hair and face paint. Her racial coding is subordinate to that. She's a glam rocker, or possibly Punk, given her attitude (and that the two styles overlapped somewhat for women).

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43753: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:43:08 AM

She's truly, truly outrageous. A revenge-driven killer, but also that.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43754: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:55:39 AM

I think the two big reasons people see Jasper as black are

A) her voice actress

B) the fact that 90% of human AU art has her as a black woman with vitiligo in place of her stripes (which is an idea I absolutely love)

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#43755: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:57:35 AM

[up] The second point is merely fan imposing. Headcanon can be a dangerous thing. It's why I dislike the whole "coding" thing.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43756: Sep 26th 2016 at 6:59:28 AM

It's not dangerous, it's just a common idea in the fandom because people find it interesting. To a lesser extent, there's the idea that human Peridot would be muslim, or human Ruby and Sapphire being Garnet's moms.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#43757: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:05:43 AM

Well people code the cast of Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends and The Amazing World of Gumball, so I don't see why they can't do the same for Steven Universe.

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Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#43758: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:13:24 AM

[up][up] It's only really dangerous when show canon contradicts headcanon and makes folks upset. So over exaggerating at work.

[up] Do they take it as seriously though?

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#43759: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:16:33 AM

What do you mean "seriously"? Are you still going on about the show's fandom?

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43760: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:21:00 AM

I have no idea why you're so upset. I explained that the majority of fanart in which Jasper is a human depicts her as a black woman with vitiligo, and you immediately jumped to the fandom being irrational and crazy because the show hasn't said that's true.

Fandom exists to create and transform a work, through art and writing. I don't understand your problem with that.

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#43761: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:23:15 AM

He thinks the fandom is psycho because of previous incidents and has admitted to not even liking the show because of the fandom.

And I think it bears repeating: IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE SHOW BECAUSE OF THE FANDOM, YOU NEVER LIKED IT IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#43762: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:24:37 AM

Also, I don't really see how the show would ever go on to contradict popular depictions of Jasper as a human. Jasper's not gonna spontaneously transform into a human or something in canon. :/

edited 26th Sep '16 7:25:12 AM by DeathsApprentice

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43763: Sep 26th 2016 at 7:49:05 AM

Not that she could even if she somehow wanted to. Changing your default Gem colors is one of the few things shape-shifting can't do.

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Disasturbator
#43764: Sep 26th 2016 at 8:44:35 AM

> Jasper's not gonna spontaneously transform into a human or something in canon. :/

Could you imagine if they did just that?No foreshadowing,no real explanation just "We decided to make Jasper human"

[lol]

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#43766: Sep 26th 2016 at 9:15:39 AM

The closest thing there might be to human Jasper is if turns out Mystery Girl has a friend or relative that looks as much like Jasper as she looks like Rose.

Which is an amusing thought, but a bit to contrived even for a joke.

edited 26th Sep '16 9:17:05 AM by thatother1dude

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43767: Sep 26th 2016 at 9:29:15 AM

That kinda thing only works once. Steven was even able to blatantly lampshade the similarity.

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The best and the worst.
#43768: Sep 26th 2016 at 9:55:24 AM

Though Mystery Girl having her own crew of doppelgängers would be hilarious.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43769: Sep 26th 2016 at 9:58:56 AM

"My name is Soze Shwartz, and these are my friends. Earl, Darnet, Blamethyst, Fteven, Vapis Vazuli, Poridet, and Rasper."

edited 26th Sep '16 9:59:06 AM by smokeycut

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43770: Sep 26th 2016 at 10:48:41 AM

Alternatively, Those Shorts, Swirl, Garnish, Suzan, Pacifist, Leaps Lazily, Paradox, and, well yeah, Rasper's a good one. Meg, Jonnie, Liger, Lisa, Katie, Mimi, Penny, Ronald, and so on. She lives in Shore Village.

Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#43771: Sep 26th 2016 at 11:18:07 AM

Me personally I don't understand the second articles's point about steven. Saying that he exerts a male authority, when the series is all about Steven's to age story about how grows to be wiser and stronger person. It doesn't mean the Gems are weaker or that they are any less important.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#43772: Sep 26th 2016 at 11:25:27 AM

[up] This is kind of my point about a show being overanalyzed more than The Wire. Aren't most of the episodes essentially him defaulting to the knowledge of the Gems in serious situations?

FawfulCrump Since: Dec, 2010
#43773: Sep 26th 2016 at 11:35:52 AM

I genuinely don't understand why it matters to you so much that people overanalyze a show you've outright stated you hate.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#43774: Sep 26th 2016 at 11:44:26 AM

Though Mystery Girl having her own crew of doppelgängers would be hilarious.

I really want this to happen now.

When we're done, there won't be anything left.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
True colors
#43775: Sep 26th 2016 at 1:08:50 PM

And Mystery Girl has just gotten over her crush on the Pearl expy.

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