Why would they need anything to contrast it to to be gay? They just are.
edited 24th Sep '16 7:48:35 PM by xanderiskander
I think the most irksome (common but definitely not universal) use of Discount Lesbians (and what Jim Sterling's rant in the article's quotes page denounces) is when the work treats a human's attraction to an alien as not significant to their sexual orientation, even when that alien bears a clear resemblance to a human sex.
That clearly is not happening with the gems. Mystery Girl's interest in Pearl demonstrates an attraction to women just as much as Greg, Dewey, and Jamie's respective interests in Rose, Pearl, and Garnet do.
For example, as much of a chauvinistic douche as Kevin is, when he thought Steven and Connie both had crushes on him, he didn't comment at all on Steven being male.
It's not perfectly realistic, but it's not THAT unrealistic either, so I'm not complaining.
edited 24th Sep '16 8:33:39 PM by thatother1dude
I'm fine with catagorizing Kevin as a Depraved Bisexual, albeit his depravity and bisexualness don't appear to have anything to do with each other.
Kevin is more about his ego, he is flattered that two boys is trying so hard to best them, is clasical troll ehivor
Also when I code chararter, is usually about their role and whatever they try to said, in Pearl I always imagine her as subversion of the "Pretty white girl" who is always quite quiet,submisive, is pretty in a "clasical" way, usually she tend to dance ballet and in general is the subversion of "Little white flower", granted aparenly asian girl suffer saind steriotype so who knows, just my interpretation
With Bismuth....call me crazy if yo want, but I always feel there is a moral about erasing in the whole episode, as Rose(who you can code white) pretty much puff her and lie about what happen, Bismuth is angry because Rose who is very "life and let it be" erase her(which is why I think Rose side destroy all remanents of PD in earth), hell once Steven said he will tell her fate Bismuth said he is better than Rose.
My only issue is that her debate about shatter point is moot as Diamonds unleash her big song of FUCK YOU! over crystal gems, making anything produce by Bismuth pointless
pd: Also, for some odd reason I feel old homeworld(the one from flashback and stuff) look like british or some imperialist state, while modern homeworld remind me of a future fasicst state
"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"Whoa, so many pages! Did new episode came out?...oh.
On unrelated, I have question, why are people so interested in Mystery Girl? Like, it's good for Pearl to move on and be happy, and shippers will ship, but she did nothing. As far as we know S stands for Satellite.
I'm asking because I saw many times before people gushing over non-entities (Volpina being most recent example) and then getting really frustrated when their headcanons are ruined.
The second Pearl X S relationship gets more serious and complicated and they will have argument about anything, I dread backlash.
Because Mystery Woman is "hot"...like black fire.
Because Pearl needs to be happy for fans to be happy...
They don't care about her non-existant character at the moment, but just Pearls development.
Maybe they'll want Mystery Woman to come back, only as a bonus.
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On coding: honestly, the only two Gems that are obviously coded Black are Bismuth and Garnet. Like... Garnet has an afro (people of other ethnicities can have hair that resembles an afro, like Napoleon Dynamite, but only people of African descent have the hair texture capable of forming an honest-to-god afro), has the closest color to Brown skin, thick lips, thick thighs, and literally dances in a traditional African style. She's black as hell.
Bismuth's coding feature is more or less her dreadlocks (see what I said about afros up there? Same principle, with the addition that White People "dreadlocks" look like The Grinch's fingers and actually perpetuate the stereotype that dreadlocks are dirty because they have to actually not wash their hair and stuff), but her build, as well as her less saturated skin tone, also make her look a little more Black to me.
On Magical Negro: yeah, Garnet has shades of this, but it's mostly to do with her not having any internal problems. The closest thing that Garnet has to a problem is that Ruby and Sapphire have trouble getting it together when they separate for a mission because they're too busy being Sickeningly Sweethearts. So yeah, all she really does is solve problems for other people, but it might be counteract ed by the fact that she's such a stable, steady presence, where usually the Black woman is like... well, Bismuth, but less killy.
edited 25th Sep '16 3:22:18 AM by SalFishFin
I wouldn't say that Garnet doesn't have any internal problems. As two people though she's better about not letting it become a huge, awkward problem. Usually.
Ship Mates and the Test give you a peek into Garnet's worries.
She even has a kind of character arc
where we see that when Rose was still alive she was a lot more open and she seems to be moving back in that direction.
Its not as obvious as Pearl and Amethyst's problems because she doesn't really sing her feelings unless its about being Stronger Than You Specifically Jasper but it doesn't mean she doesn't have anything going on.
edited 25th Sep '16 6:04:03 AM by Bocaj
Forever liveblogging the AvengersWell, by "internal issue" i more or less meant low self-esteem. Give or take a couple days, Garnet has been saying "I Love You" to herself for the better part of 5700+ years. She has zero huge hangups about her personality or her background, outside of whatever feelings she has about Rose's death that all of Steven's Moms have as a standard.
Yeah, there was a little arc about her becoming less of a stoic, but that was season 1. She only has problems when someone brings her one.
All I get from people complaining about how the show handles black coded people is basically you should never have a token minority be a villain, which is complete bull in my opinion.
Btw this is coming from someone who's black. It seems you literally have to walk on eggshells to not offend people these days.
Eggshells aren't that uncomfortable to walk on...
Unfortunately some people are just that sensitive...
Offending those people is very easy apparently...
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I just knew the moment the Bismuth episode aired people were going to have issues with that episodes purely because of what Bismuth was coded,
Had Bismuth not been coded black but was relatively the same would people truly be complaining about it "offending" them?
I argue it is a case of people being extra offended, because some of the stuff I see people get offended by is pretty much subject that simply doesn't cater to their desires, they tend to feel completely priviage as if the world owes them something because of it.
edited 25th Sep '16 7:25:21 AM by GarnetRebeller96
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That'd be a "probably" on any race other than white...only depending on character behavior obviously.
Could you list some examples? Because so far I see legitimate arguments for most things people find offensive. I know for a fact that there are some Unfortunate Implications in SU, because I've felt them.
Having a Black(coded) character be an ultra-violent revolutionary isn't an issue in and of itself.
However, in the context of the current civil rights revolution going on, and in general how Black people are seen as inherently violent and dangerous, it is actually quite a thoughtless portrayal.
edited 25th Sep '16 7:46:40 AM by SalFishFin

Its very confusing.
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