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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43176: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:33:54 AM

That's seeming like a complicated way of saying he's a sailor...almost.

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#43177: Sep 13th 2016 at 8:35:04 AM

I think I saw a theory somewhere that he's based on a specific island of fishermen with a mumbling accent that's hard for non-locals to make out (so Onion speaks with it because he mostly hangs out with his dad, and Sour Cream sometimes falls into it from being raised by Yellowtail).

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#43180: Sep 13th 2016 at 10:53:33 AM

Newfoundland ?
There a numerous places, Tangier may be the most famous.

Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#43181: Sep 13th 2016 at 10:56:20 AM

Hey, just hit me. Mystery Girl is pretty well build. Does that mean that certain people can finally stop complaining that show is demonizing beefy ladies? Pretty please?

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43182: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:05:38 AM

Those complaints arose because of how both Jasper and Bismuth were depicted, and have largely faded since Earthlings aired. I haven't seen any of them since then, at least.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43183: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:20:11 AM

[up][up]They can't just go away, we need at least 1 more beefy woman to counter those complaints.

edited 13th Sep '16 11:20:23 AM by randomness4

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43184: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:25:04 AM

[up][up][up]nah, she probably secretly eviltongue just waitevil grin

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YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#43185: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:26:20 AM

And we need confirmation that Mystery Girl isn't actually a villain....

(seriously though, please no, let Pearl have a good thing)

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edited 13th Sep '16 11:27:57 AM by YamiVizziniX

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darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43186: Sep 13th 2016 at 11:31:09 AM

I've still seen a lot after "Earthlings".

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#43187: Sep 13th 2016 at 12:09:09 PM

It must be extremely personal if they're willing to forsake valuable limited resources...

Thas dumb, mang. You can't possibly justify this.

My point exactly. Even the "low resources" excuse isn't a good one. It goes back to my earlier argument that antagonists seem to be written very simply until they get redeemed. It seems like the show is going more for Black-and-Gray Morality than anything else.

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#43188: Sep 13th 2016 at 1:11:54 PM

[up][up][up]Nonsense, pearl is not pearl is she not sufferevil grin

but really, she have move A LOT, I mean not only in getting a girl, she and amathyst actually befriend the two, that is a lot of progress for their condesending actitud at first.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#43189: Sep 13th 2016 at 2:24:52 PM

My point exactly. Even the "low resources" excuse isn't a good one. It goes back to my earlier argument that antagonists seem to be written very simply until they get redeemed. It seems like the show is going more for Black and Gray Morality than anything else.

Homeworld's attitude to Earth seems realistic to me. A wealthy power invades a weaker area for resources, then suffered an unexpected and humiliating war that they didn't plan for. Now, they're divided between pointless revenge fantasies and indifferent contempt.

Then there's the Punch-Clock Villain trope, with Centipeetle and the Rubies. The show does a lot to humanize them, but if Centipeetle and her crew had succeeded, humanity would have been exterminated.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#43190: Sep 13th 2016 at 2:59:51 PM

A character can still have some sympathetic and positive traits while still being completely horrible. Not all well written villains have understandable, tragic motivations (they can consider themselves having good motivations, but that doesn't mean it is true), nor do they always have to have a point. Grey-and-Gray Morality is not always the route to go. There are terrible, cruel people in this world, that will never "get better" and it isn't bad storytelling to acknowledge that. You average terrible person doesn't wake up believing they're the villain, but that doesn't make them not awful.

That's how I'm guessing/hoping the Diamonds turn out. Sure, they might have some traits that make them sympathetic and understandable (avenging Pink Diamond, for example), but it will be all drowned out by the ocean of awfulness.

edited 13th Sep '16 3:01:16 PM by SilentColossus

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#43191: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:01:01 PM

The overall conflict of the show is still firmly Black-and-White Morality. To say otherwise is applying too narrow a definition to that trope.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#43192: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:17:00 PM

Yeah, I personally like the idea that Yellow Diamond is pretty chill unless the subject of Earth comes up. She didn't really care that Peridot was contacting her directly or pretty much anything that happened until the cluster was mentioned.

darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#43193: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:21:47 PM

There was contempt, but aside from being a very strict boss, she wasn't exactly unfair as such. Aside from the "you already have" comment.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#43194: Sep 13th 2016 at 3:24:24 PM

She was annoyed that Peri called her on her personal line but she wasn't super upset. Just more tired and annoyed than anything. And she did give Peri a lot of chaces to back out and catch her tongue before calling her a clod.

Oh really when?
Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#43195: Sep 13th 2016 at 4:39:09 PM

Does it feel like less people comment in this thread than there used to be?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43196: Sep 13th 2016 at 4:43:20 PM

There's been one less person recently...

Don't even ask though...

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diyedas Since: Feb, 2010
#43197: Sep 13th 2016 at 4:48:44 PM

It probably felt like more and there probably were more because of having episodes every day, more to talk about, instead of once a week.

edited 13th Sep '16 4:49:20 PM by diyedas

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#43198: Sep 13th 2016 at 5:44:31 PM

Am I the only one who finds the current description for Onion Gang to be very unnerving?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#43199: Sep 13th 2016 at 5:53:20 PM

What's the descriptor?

Why is it unnerving?

Valid questions.

edited 13th Sep '16 5:53:47 PM by randomness4

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RegisteredUser Body contains a Human Soul. from It's as cold as it looks. Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
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#43200: Sep 13th 2016 at 6:12:15 PM

From our own recap page: "Steven finds out about Onion's secret friends."

This is disconcerting and alarming on several levels, not the least of which the idea of Onion having friends.


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