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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42901: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:36:46 AM

[up][up][up]Honestly though, those rebels deserved that corruption...they shattered a Diamond. That's enough of a reason to kill them before.

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42902: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:40:20 AM

at some point fuck sympathy

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42903: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:52:35 AM

Honestly though, those rebels deserved that corruption...they shattered a Diamond.

Says who? What makes corruption a worthy punishment for shattering a diamond? I personally consider torture worse than murder anyway.

That's enough of a reason to kill them before.

But she's not trying to kill rebels for punishment. That would make sense. She's trying to destroy an entire planet. The planet isn't a rebel.

at some point fuck sympathy

No. Sympathy is great. But don't let that stop us from doing what needs to be done.

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42904: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:54:47 AM

it seemed pretty obvious that [up]x3 was randomness saying what homeworld thinks/would think

also theres a reason i said sympathy not empathy

i can understand why people do things but that doesnt mean i feel bad for them

welp page topper

edited 11th Sep '16 2:55:16 AM by MsAmiClassified

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42905: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:59:56 AM

it seemed pretty obvious that [up]x3 was randomness saying what homeworld thinks/would think

Not to me. Besides, that's just condemning them more in my eyes.

also theres a reason i said sympathy not empathy i can understand why people do things but that doesnt mean i feel bad for them

I know. But you should feel bad for them anyway. I don't see anything wrong with feeling bad for someone and then executing them anyway as they cannot be allowed to exist.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42906: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:06:26 AM

They were going to ruin the planet anyway...because of the rebels, now they're just gonna blow it up.

They are only screwing themselves over with this "spite" thing.

Feeling bad for people is an option, not mandatory. The rebels only received their just desserts.

edited 11th Sep '16 3:07:43 AM by randomness4

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42907: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:14:52 AM

They were going to ruin the planet anyway...because of the rebels, now they're just gonna blow it up. They are only screwing themselves over with this "spite" thing.

That changes nothing. They're killing for spite. that's all that matters.

Feeling bad for people is an option, not mandatory.

Not being overthrown and executed is also not mandatory. Things being options doesn't make them equal or mean that none of the options are inherently bad.

The rebels only received their just desserts.

Again, says who? What makes it a just punishment?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42908: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:18:52 AM

It's a just punishment because they're fighting against their HW...it's treason, putting a random planet before your own. Just out of your own interest.

This little spec of rock means nothing in all the universe.

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42909: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:21:59 AM

It's a just punishment because they're fighting against their HW...it's treason, putting a random planet before your own. Just out of your own interest. This little spec of rock means nothing in all the universe.

And what makes it a just punishment for treason?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42910: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:22:20 AM

Home World law...seeing as they're suppose to be loyal.

edited 11th Sep '16 3:22:57 AM by randomness4

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42911: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:28:09 AM

Home World law...seeing as they're suppose to be loyal.

And what makes Homeworld law inherently just? And why are they supposed to be loyal? And why is this a just punishment for disloyalty?

I come from a country with a history of unjust laws and a history of having disloyal individuals as the heroes.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42912: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:36:38 AM

Only their laws matter to them...they may be prone to change in the future, but that doesn't matter.

How their system works now is what matters. If they don't see anything wrong with them now, thas all there is to it.

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42913: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:40:08 AM

Only their laws matter to them...they may be prone to change in the future, but that doesn't matter. How their system works now is what matters. If they don't see anything wrong with them now, thas all there is to it.

And that's exactly what the problem is.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42914: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:43:08 AM

Only to us(you) outsiders...

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#42915: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:45:08 AM

I honestly don't know whether Randomness is strawmanning for Homeworld, or actually believes in what they're saying. The constant ellipsis don't help, as it gives the impression of sarcasm.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42916: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:46:45 AM

Only to us(you) outsiders...

Laws that exist only for themselves are exactly as bad in our own society, so no.

I honestly don't know whether Randomness is strawmanning for Homeworld, or actually believes in what they're saying. The constant ellipsis don't help, as it gives the impression of sarcasm.

Same

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42917: Sep 11th 2016 at 3:50:45 AM

The ellipsis is just a bad habit, mang.

Is just like milk, can't stop.

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42918: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:04:40 AM

im going with strawman

still not sure what hes trying to achieve by doing so

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thatindiantroper Since: Feb, 2015
#42919: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:05:40 AM

So how is it that Pearl can drive, knows what the DMV is, and gets that telling them she's an alien would be insane but told a random girl that and didn't recognise a phone number ?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42920: Sep 11th 2016 at 4:10:46 AM

[up][up]Randomness isn't trying to achieve nothin'...they just like defending the villains.

[up]If they actually cared about the law, the difference would make a heck of a...difference. Also priorities, they never have to use phones...but they would notice the buildings and purpose of them.

edited 11th Sep '16 4:13:43 AM by randomness4

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Sunchet Since: Oct, 2010
#42921: Sep 11th 2016 at 5:46:13 AM

I put my thoughts that way: If in the end, literally every Gem will be treated with some degree of sympathy, leaving only Marty and Kevin as only 100% unlikable characters, I will be a bit...miffed.

It kinda bothers me when people react more harshly to crimes that feel more realistic. You yell at your kids, rot in hell. Your neighbor wants to blow up Canada, maybe he just needs a hug.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#42922: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:00:50 AM

a.k.a. Diamond Tiara syndrome

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#42923: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:03:47 AM

I wouldn't really say that. There's still a bit of subtext to Marty and Kevin that people tend to ignore for one reason or another.

Kevin's obviously got his own issues with narcissism and entitlement and Marty, at least when we see him when he's older, has a lot of problems expressing feelings properly.

Oh really when?
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I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#42924: Sep 11th 2016 at 6:07:10 AM

Watch: Kevin's whole sob story about his brother is going to turn out to be true... except Kevin doesn't even give a shit and uses it to garner sympathy and mess with people.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#42925: Sep 11th 2016 at 7:01:26 AM

Regarding the whole discussion of homeworld and the Diamonds, I'm withholding judgement on the Diamonds in particular until we get the full story of how gem society came to be. If they go with the well worn (and not without reason) trope of the gems having been created as weapons by Precursors or something of that sort, then I don't really think you could justify being willing to forgive the likes of Peridot and Jasper and so on and not extend the same courtesy to the Diamonds.

edited 11th Sep '16 7:01:47 AM by CaptainCapsase


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