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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#42876: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:46:38 PM

[up][up] Yeah, now that I think about it, having Pearl try to convince a teenager (that looks like a kid) to fuse with an adult woman just so she can fuse with them may not be the best idea.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
madprophet Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
#42877: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:47:29 PM

[up][up]That's the attitude of somebody who doesn't want delicious and amazing sandwiches.

[up]Yeah, it is a bad idea.

Let's do it anyway and see what happens.

edited 10th Sep '16 8:48:30 PM by madprophet

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42878: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:51:52 PM

Honestly, I doubt it'll happen. But if it were to happen...

I'd like to imagine it'd be a message about meeting someone who your parent is in a relationship with, and coming to terms with them potentially being a part of your family.

Steven is hesitant at first. He knows Pearl likes Sheena, but her resemblance to his mother, plus him not knowing her too well, leads to him being a bit uncomfortable around her.

Sheena wants to connect with Steven, but has no clue how. She knows he's important to Pearl though, and she wants to be there for him.

Eventually, Steven and Sheena fuse, and when Pearl sees, they fuse with her too in their excitement. And we get a nice metaphor for coming to love a stepparent.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42879: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:52:06 PM

Fusion would probs feel like the most kick-butt power high....especially for humans.

I'm not sure how Connie deals.

edited 10th Sep '16 8:52:50 PM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42881: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:55:47 PM

Well they most likely wouldn't go through with actually fusing on the show if your scenario did happen.

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ProserpinaFC Since: Jan, 2001
#42882: Sep 10th 2016 at 8:58:21 PM

@madprophet, you Magnificient Bastard, I read your post!

"Their right to the freedom to do as they wish ends at the right of all sentient beings to exist."

I'm going to add another example to this, if you don't mind, when I think back to the whole First World Problems question with Amethyst. Here is an example I love, because I love challenging my people. African-Americans love wearing hair extensions made from the hair of Asian women. You could get a sister to talk for hours about persecution, justice and human rights, but end a conversation real quick by pointing out that the only way to keep a constant flow of hair coming from India and China is to impose a certain percent of young women to be poor enough to sell their hair for money. And yet the only reason why a sister DOES this is because of her own crippling insecurity that she'll never succeed in her First World life unless her hair looks unnatural.

Veganism: The USDA suggests that people only eat one serving of meat a day, which we know most people don't do and some parts of the culture actively fight against as a mark of pride. If we can't even get people to follow conventional logic for their health, how do we convince the First World to accept the idea that it has to actively share the planet with animals that vegans deem capable of emotion and intelligence?

Gems: Gems need to reproduce, but they may not need to be made as adults, which according to Classroom Gems, is why they need to suck up so much life. Adding childhood to the Gem lifecycle would alter every single facet (lol) of their civilization and put more burden on them, as they would then have to teach and caregive, not to mention it would create a higher margin of error with defective Gems, since not every offspring is successful. How could Steven sell this exceptionally burdensome process to Gems? (He literally is Rose Quartz's sales pitch to Gems to embrace childhood for the sake of co-existing with other lifeforms. But HOW will he do it?)

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42883: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:04:45 PM

@Randomness: Why wouldn't they?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42884: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:07:10 PM

Because Stephen is a kid...and their reason for Peral and Mystery Woman fusing would be...to get closer?

edited 10th Sep '16 9:08:27 PM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42885: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:09:24 PM

Sorry, I don't think I was very clear, to be fair.

In the concept I was talking about, Steven and S fuse because they want to, as a way to bond/understand each other better. Then Pearl comes in, sees what happened, and in their excitement, she accidentally fuses with them as well.

madprophet Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: Staying up all night to get lucky
#42886: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:12:00 PM

@Prosperina: If I was writing this, it would be one of two things.

One way is he proves himself by intelligence and incredible strength, and proves that is just as strong as any quartz even though he was raised as opposed to born.

The other is to defeat a team of quartz the angriest, the most competitive, the most dangerous, the deadliest, the most polarizing issue since the invention of religion, the most human effort ever made.

FIFA INTER-WORLD TOURNAMENT!

Well, it was fun debating you. I must go to bed soon. G'night. Hope to meet again on verbal battlefield.

ProserpinaFC Since: Jan, 2001
#42887: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:16:20 PM

Soccer match for Earth.

Hmmm... it is past midnight.... hmmmm....

Ogodei Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers from The front lines Since: Jan, 2011
Fuck you, Fascist sympathizers
#42888: Sep 10th 2016 at 9:50:57 PM

Finally found a streaming site that works perfectly on my smart TV (nice, lightweight HTML-5 player), so now we can get this binge a rolling.

Watched "Rose's Room." The trippier parts of that reminded me of Earth Bound, somehow. A top funny moment so far when Steven bit Garnet after he came out to prove she was real, and then Amethyst takes that as an excuse to bite Pearl.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42889: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:12:15 PM

It was probably the dialogue that help set the mood...

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42890: Sep 10th 2016 at 10:22:26 PM

Goddamnit, you guys made four pages of moralizing in the past two hours?

What the fuck, you could at least wait for the rest of the regulars.

here have a comic geez

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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#42891: Sep 11th 2016 at 12:19:41 AM

"It's just that Peridot's redemption was fueled by her finding reasons to love and respect life on Earth, not by resentment and disillusionment in her Diamond. That was literally the last step, the icing on the cake."

just a thing, her finding how stupid diamond authority is what really tip her around, Peridot is very logic drive, right to the point she is disrespecfull to everyone if she consider stupid(I mean she ofend Rose, which is HUGE No to the crystal gem) she see the whole thing as misunderstand and try create a Golden mean fallacy(Funny thing he talk with Yellow Diamond which closet thing to golden) expecting Diamond logic to see a better way,consider what Peridot said latter, YD actituded is like the typical dictarot who throw a big tantrum at the cost of logic.

In sort, she saw a new world with new posibilities, she try to show that to flawless perfect authority and they prefer destruction for the sake of it, as far Peridot is concern, she dosent own anything to those Diamond Clods

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#42892: Sep 11th 2016 at 1:43:21 AM

Holy shit, this thread!

Okay, let me just say one thing: a Gem's natural incubation process is most likely no more evil or damaging to the environment than a pregnant woman eating more to support the fetus, the problem comes when the process is artificially sped up through Injectors and gemetic engineering, and is likely only exacerbated by an insistence on planting a huge number of Gems within close proximity in the same location.

Also, let's not jump to conclusions that the Diamond are 100% evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and deserve to die. Certainly, they are cruel dictators, with an expansionist obsession, a morally bankrupt style of mass reproduction, and an almost desperate fear of change and rebellion, but dictators don't just happen. The Diamonds have a history too, the four we know of, assuming they all have the size and theoretical strength of Yellow Diamond, feels to me that they were created with the express purpose of leading the Gem species, especially if the theories of Pink being relatively new hold water. I suspect that the four Diamonds we know of are simply the latest in a long line of the Diamond dynasty, and that Gem society has been getting progressively more and more fascist and controlling over time.

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42894: Sep 11th 2016 at 1:59:27 AM

Zero tolerance for killing children.

So, how do you handle children that kill children?

But they didn't. Simple as that, they didn't.

Are you really praising someone for their physical failure to commit the atrocities they attempted?

Also, let's not jump to conclusions that the Diamond are 100% evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever, and deserve to die.

I don't care if Yellow Diamond has an infinite number of redeeming qualities. She kills out of spite. I do not tolerate that.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#42895: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:05:08 AM

My point, in the end, is that the Diamonds are, most likely, just as much of a product of Gem society as everyone else is.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42896: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:10:04 AM

Killing out of spite...

They're killing because of a rebellion leading to war...war required death at request.

She's Not salvaging the Earth out of spite.

edited 11th Sep '16 2:14:49 AM by randomness4

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42897: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:10:45 AM

yeah because shes not salvaging the earth

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Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42898: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:27:21 AM

My point, in the end, is that the Diamonds are, most likely, just as much of a product of Gem society as everyone else is.

And that is utterly irrelevant. It doesn't make what they do any less evil or the damage they do any less real. The reason why you became a criminal doesn't change the fact that that's what you are and it doesn't make the problems you cause go away or change the fact that they need to be solved. Even considering their background is a perversion of justice. Justice is blind. All are equal before the law and your background must never be considered.

They're killing because of a rebellion leading to war...war required death at request.

No, because that isn't a valid conclusion. "There was a rebellion there" does not lead to "must be destroyed".

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#42899: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:30:36 AM

I'm saying that arguing that all other Gems are innocent soldiers just doing their jobs is ignoring that the Diamonds are too.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#42900: Sep 11th 2016 at 2:32:02 AM

I'm saying that arguing that all other Gems are innocent soldiers just doing their jobs is ignoring that the Diamonds are too.

I don't believe either is.


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