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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42076: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:18:13 PM

oh we get it we just think youre grasping for straws here

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42077: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:18:57 PM

I'm not ignoring that. Steven made that assumption because he had no idea what was happening. And we'd need an explanation for why something like that was happening with Jasper, because we have not been lead to believe there is a "transition period".

This is by designed a very complicated situation, it shouldn't just be hand waved away just because you like a particular character.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:20:43 PM by LSBK

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42078: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:19:12 PM

But why bring it up again, in an episode about Jasper? And these episodes aren't self contained. Steven tried helping Centi, and nearly did it. With how this show works, they aren't just going to drop that idea.

Fuck it. Forget I even brought it up. People can't even talk about the idea of Jasper being helped without getting told to shut up.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:20:10 PM by smokeycut

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42079: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:21:38 PM

No one told you to shut up. We pointed out what we saw as flaws in your idea.

This is what I was talking about when I said that anything other just cooing about how Jasper is awesome and tragic can't be talked about without some people getting defensive.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:23:16 PM by LSBK

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#42080: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:24:15 PM

We just have no reason to assume it means anything other than that Steven thought about something based off seeing footprints in the snow, and thinking about the previous episode.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:25:09 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42081: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:25:28 PM

So...does that brief period of Jaspee exploding at Stephen not count as a transition period, or is that something else?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42082: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:27:07 PM

[up]I'm not sure what you mean. By "transition period" I mean a period of time in which they'd be switching between their normal self and corrupted mode. Nothing like that has been implied to be a thing, and Smokey Cut's idea hinges on it being a thing.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:27:36 PM by LSBK

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42083: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:28:38 PM

@LSBK: that's a load of bull and you know it. this thread is incredibly hostile towards the character and people who want her to get redeemed.

Am I the only one who remembers the conversation about how Steven should shatter Jasper in cold blood? Or the time where someone literally said anyone who likes Jasper shouldn't be allowed in the thread?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42084: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:30:51 PM

I remember that...hasn't that stopped for a while now?

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42085: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:31:00 PM

[up][up]No, no I don't know that. What I remember is a lot of people going on about how they love Jasper and want/expect her to be redeemed.

I do recall that someone said what you said, but they apologized for it, and apparently said it awhile ago.

You act like if people aren't 100% positive about her, it's some sort of personal attack. All we did is explain why we wouldn't think you idea would work or make much sense, and you claim we all told you to shut up.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:57:38 PM by LSBK

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#42086: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:32:14 PM

Those were both one-off things one person said because people were annoyed at other people being insistent Jasper joining the Crystal Gems had to be a thing,

And nobody said "they weren't allowed" to be in the thread. They said they should just go away, because the conversations they were bringing up weren't going anywhere.

And they apologized for that too.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:32:49 PM by xanderiskander

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42087: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:32:21 PM

as second in command of the jaspy fan circle i order you to calm the fuck down

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#42088: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:34:01 PM

I'm talking about the ridiculous lenghts people go to to insist Jasper won't show up again, or will only appear at the very end of the show. I brought up how Kimberly Brooks was recording new episodes and people started saying it would have to be a flashback, even though no characters knew her before she showed up in The Return.

You guys say I'm grasping at straws to justify a redemption/uncorruption, but you willingly ignore everything that points to it happening.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42089: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:36:30 PM

I don't recall anyone saying she'd never show up again, and wanting her show up later just comes of as logically sound to me.

Corruption is a big deal, I don't want a solution to be hand-waved into exist for one character, especially a solution that wouldn't make much sense.

We get that you like/identify with Jasper, but that's no reason to act like everyone who isn't as jazzed about her as you hates her. No one is trying to force their opinion on you, and I'd ask you do the same.

I hope I'm not coming off like an ass saying this. It's been on my chest for awhile.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:38:53 PM by LSBK

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#42090: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:36:42 PM

Like, no?

At least half the thread agrees she's set for some sort of healing arc, it's this specific wmg that sounds overreaching and ridiculous.

We didn't form the Jaspy fan circle for nothing.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#42091: Sep 3rd 2016 at 12:40:23 PM

I'd assume even a corrupted Jasper would still be voiced by Kimberly Brooks, even if he can't heal her right away.

I'd think she gets healed at some point, but that'd be when they find a cure, not because of some miracle situation we have no set precedent for. It would make the way Earthlings ended (and corruption in general) feel cheap if it were solved that easily.

edited 3rd Sep '16 12:52:32 PM by xanderiskander

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42092: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:08:51 PM

Apparently Mr. Smiley is indeed gay.

I wonder if him and Mr. Frowny were actually in a previously broken relationship...

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42094: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:11:47 PM

Okay, but who were those people?

Rinsankajugin Since: Feb, 2012
#42095: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:12:45 PM

Storyboard artists for the show.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#42096: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:13:41 PM

So Mr. Smiley is the very first homosexual Human in this show? Goddamn, it's about time! For a show that purports to be progressive, it sure took them long enough!

edited 3rd Sep '16 1:16:17 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42097: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:16:21 PM

Return to the Nightosphere...that's a nice shirt.

[up]Homo-male...

edited 3rd Sep '16 1:17:06 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#42098: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:17:54 PM

There was something about a lesbian couple with a kid showing up in a few crowd shots, right? When was this?

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#42099: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:19:57 PM

Twas in "Sadie's Song"...

edited 3rd Sep '16 1:20:28 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#42100: Sep 3rd 2016 at 1:20:04 PM

That was in the return I believe, when Steven got everyone to evacuate beach city.

edit: [nja]'d and wrong

edited 3rd Sep '16 1:20:42 PM by xanderiskander


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