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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41826: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:52:47 PM

Unrelated and not very important, but I'm buying an SU little tiny vinyl figure thingy. Not Pop, but by the same people. Will post pictures when I find out what I got.

I'm gonna be buying a shit ton of these later this year when they release the new wave with Jasper, holo pearl, tiny Peridot, and all the various water clones.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#41827: Aug 30th 2016 at 4:59:24 PM

I hope it's cute

Oh really when?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#41828: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:13:09 PM

Well I strongly suspect they are the product of some sort of society. If not gems than a race of Abusive Precursors who created them presumably as living weapons, or something of that sort.
Maybe the Diamonds were made by Recursive Precursors, maybe they have a natural origin (not counting elective modification) and the rest of their race either died out or were left behind when the Diamonds decided to form their own civilization from scratch in a remote piece of space.

All are equally likely, but only because that they don't contradict canon and I don't think we'll ever even get any hints as to the Diamonds' origin.

edited 30th Aug '16 5:19:08 PM by thatother1dude

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#41829: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:32:51 PM

I really don't think that an origin for the Gem race is part of Sugar's plan. Actually, how far do you think she and the crew have plotted things out for? What season do they plan to be the final season? I kind of think saving the origins of the Gems may be something to save in case you end up having a Grand Finale, then need to make a Post-Script Season.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#41830: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:35:14 PM

I really don't think that an origin for the Gem race is part of Sugar's plan.
"The Diamonds made them" already is an origin for all the other gems (gems as we know them at least). It's the Diamonds whose past is a mystery and will probably remain as such.

edited 30th Aug '16 5:35:49 PM by thatother1dude

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41831: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:38:43 PM

Actually, how far do you think she and the crew have plotted things out for?
IIRC they said at SDCC that they have a complete timeline of the show made, and that it includes events before and after the series.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41832: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:40:32 PM

They'd have to...we're always learning about the past, that's it's impossible that it isn't already planned out.

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41833: Aug 30th 2016 at 5:42:10 PM

Toy obtained! Big Donut Employee Steven!

I was hoping for Lapis or evil Peridot, but he's good too. Once the new wave is released later this year, I'm collecting as many as I can until I get the homeworld trio, Amethyst, and at least one of Lapis' water clones.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#41834: Aug 30th 2016 at 7:10:29 PM

Going back to that concern that the show will end at season five because it hasn't been renewed for a new season yet, I have the numbers to show that that is bullcrap.

Yes, evidence suggests the "renewal" from last March was really just reorganizing existing episodes. But the two actual renewals before that, in July 2014 and July 2015, were so huge that they haven't been used up.

I assessed this numerically by making a countdown of days until a "necessary renewal" date. As a dire estimate, I set the starting date to be that of first renewal, right before the show's premiere. From there, every renewal caused the countdown to be increased by a number of days, where I estimate each episode to be worth ten days. Here are the results.

Long story short, don't worry about another renewal until at least May 2017.

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#41835: Aug 30th 2016 at 8:10:29 PM

The show's been pretty successful, right? I'd wager that if it ends, it'll be because the Crewinverse is ready for it to end.

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CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#41836: Aug 30th 2016 at 8:45:09 PM

@dude: I seriously doubt they don't have an origin for the diamonds in mind. Not when the show has been so meticulous about world building and foreshadowing. Whether or not it ends up coming up is another question entirely.

I also wonder whether we might see aliens other than gems.

edited 30th Aug '16 8:46:15 PM by CaptainCapsase

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41837: Aug 30th 2016 at 8:47:12 PM

If it doesn't, then they don't have one...stuff like that isn't worth skipping.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#41838: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:23:18 PM

I also wonder whether we might see aliens other than gems.

wild mass guessThe Gems are the solution to the Fermi Paradox.

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#41839: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:26:54 PM

[up] I actually have had a theory that humans happen to be the only other intelligent life out there, or at least the first the Gems had come across, or the first that they didn't get to genocide.

It would play straight into Humans Are Special.

edited 30th Aug '16 9:28:07 PM by BlueBlaze64

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41840: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:29:27 PM

If it wasn't for corruption gems looking like mutant Earth creatures, I'd say that the Gems can be whatever alien you want them to be...all the alien you need.

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#41841: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:32:21 PM

I'm wondering if part of the problem with Gem reproduction is that they need a life source to drain, what with them being part magic and all. Otherwise, they could just colonize dead planets like Mars.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41842: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:38:18 PM

Maybe they already do, we don't know nuthin'...

Maybe they don't, I definitely don't know nuthin'...

edited 30th Aug '16 9:39:18 PM by randomness4

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JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#41843: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:40:36 PM

I actually have had a theory that humans happen to be the only other intelligent life out there, or at least the first the Gems had come across, or the first that they didn't get to genocide. It would play straight into Humans Are Special.

That's actually fairly realistic, if you take Apes or Angels into account:

Sir Arthur C. Clarke made a famous observation about space explorers discovering aliens: "If one considers the millions of years of pre-history, and the rapid technological advancement occurring now, if you apply that to a hypothetical alien race, one can figure the probabilities of how advanced the explorers will find them. The conclusion is we will find apes or angels, but not men."

Why? Consider the history of Planet Earth. Let the height of the Empire State building represent the 5 billion year life of Terra without Man. The height of a one-foot ruler perched on top would represent the million years of Man's existence. The thickness of a dime will represent the ten thousand years of Man's civilization. And the thickness of a postage stamp will represent the 300 years of Man's technological civilization. An unknown portion above represents "pre-Singularity Man", the period up to the point where mankind hits the Singularity/evolves into a higher form/turns into angels. Say another dime. Then they leave Terra to go to better things. Above that would be another Empire State building, representing the latter 5 billion years of Terra's lifespan without Man.

If you picked a millimeter of this tower at random, what would you most likely hit? One of the Empire State buildings, of course. So, assuming only one civilization develops on a planet, chances are the first-in-scout starship Daniel Boone will discover mostly planets that are currently empty of alien civilizations (but they might have an almost 50% chance to discover valuable Forerunner artifacts or other paleotechnology).

If you only use the section with an alien civilization, you have a ruler and two dimes worth of apes and angels, and a postage stamp edge worth of near Human civilization. If you pick a millimeter at random chances are you ain't gonna pict the edge of the postage stamp. Ergo: apes or angels, but not men.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#41844: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:54:22 PM

Gem society is too militarized for them to not have encountered other species. Peridot even says they're designed for conquest.

edited 30th Aug '16 9:56:01 PM by SilentColossus

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41845: Aug 30th 2016 at 9:58:51 PM

So according to TV guide and Zap2it, it looks like there's no new episode next week, and the show's timeslot will be taken over by new We Bare Bears episodes. Looks like we're in for another hiatus.

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41846: Aug 30th 2016 at 11:03:00 PM

At least something good came out of this.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#41847: Aug 30th 2016 at 11:53:09 PM

I actually have had a theory that humans happen to be the only other intelligent life out there, or at least the first the Gems had come across, or the first that they didn't get to genocide.

I had originally theorized that the first time they had ever encountered sentient life was on Earth, and that discovery was what kickstarted Rose's rebellion.

Of course, now that there's a strong implication that Rose was created on Earth, that doesn't really hold water anymore.

[up][up][up] Also that.

Oh God! Natural light!
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#41848: Aug 31st 2016 at 2:30:58 AM

[up] Gems came early enough in human history that it wouldn't be impossible for them to simply not realize humans were anywhere near as intelligent as gems.

That said, the fact that Gems are so militaristic means they almost have to have encountered other life, since it doesn't seem like they're nearly as prone to infighting as humans are.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41849: Aug 31st 2016 at 2:51:43 AM

The Gems conquer star dust, for it is very deadly ya see.

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