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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41676: Aug 27th 2016 at 10:29:51 PM

He could've helped the terminator Ruby if he hadn't told her that he was Rosey.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#41677: Aug 27th 2016 at 10:45:10 PM

It didn't matter what Steven said, Eyeball decided he was Rose entirely based on his healing power. And she was injured because she was completely ignoring everything he said because she didn't trust him.

edited 27th Aug '16 10:47:59 PM by thatother1dude

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41678: Aug 27th 2016 at 10:47:19 PM

That really was a do or die scenario where he had no other option, as was the situation with Bismuth. Jasper is more open ended, but even if she let him try and it didn't work (and I doubt it would have) he'd probably only feel worse.

edited 27th Aug '16 10:47:59 PM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41679: Aug 27th 2016 at 10:51:29 PM

[up][up]She was injured because she was outside the bubble...that was independent of anything either of them did.

edited 27th Aug '16 10:52:56 PM by randomness4

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41680: Aug 27th 2016 at 10:56:06 PM

Pretty sure the out of his control part they're both talking about is the part where Steven abandons Eyeball in the depths of space, because she's trying to chisel his gem.

Eh, nvm missed some context. The point is though that Eyeball wasn't going to trust him no matter what. She would have realized he was Rose anyway after healing her even if he hadn't told her.

edited 27th Aug '16 11:04:50 PM by xanderiskander

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41681: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:03:47 AM

The whole thing with Eyeball was pretty much a spit-second discussion seeing as she was seconds away from stabbing him to death and ignoring all of his pleas.

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
TheHandle United Earth from Stockholm Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
United Earth
#41682: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:25:09 AM

How ungrateful.

Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41683: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:29:09 AM

She was very grateful.

Stephen gave her a chance to capture Rosey Quartz.

She accepted with murderous glee.

edited 28th Aug '16 1:29:57 AM by randomness4

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Ruise Nyanpasu~ from your subconscious Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Nyanpasu~
#41684: Aug 28th 2016 at 1:57:12 AM

Obviously if was a desperate situation. If Steven had been able to put her in her own bubble before pushing her off into space...then at least she'd be safer.

I'm worried about her and the other Rubabes.

Loves feel-good animation a whole lot.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#41685: Aug 28th 2016 at 2:38:03 AM

Lapis was doing fairly well in "Beta". She's polite to her guests, is humoring and taking part in Peridot's activities, has a few moments of genuine happiness, and seems pretty content with her lot in life.

As a depressive character and someone who has it myself, I appreciate that she goes up and down. Some fans that insist she should smile and act happy all the time annoy me.Even if she's not the most socially pleasant Gem to be around she has a right to feel the way she does on her own terms. And now she gets to do just that.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41686: Aug 28th 2016 at 2:47:00 AM

She's the most socially pleasant to be around...almost completely disinterested in everything happening around her, that's dream mate material.

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PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#41687: Aug 28th 2016 at 6:25:23 AM

Serious threat in early season one: a mascot costume is granted sentence and force-feeds people fries, forcing Steven to strip naked and use his own clothing as warriors to defeat it.

Serious threat in early season four: Steven has to deal with the consequences of repressing traumatic memories of the times where he failed to save three different people from A Fate Worse Than Death.

YamiVizziniX Since: Jan, 2015 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
#41688: Aug 28th 2016 at 6:53:18 AM

This show... both [up] and @37839 would be perfect page toppers for Cerebus Syndrome if they weren't so spoilertastic.

There is no beginning. There is no end. There is only... Hooty.
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#41689: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:34:40 AM

@darkabomination: LSBK's issue wasn't that Lapis is unhappy, it was that everything turns to drama when she's around.

I don't really think that's true either. "Same Old World" was mostly lighthearted, "Barn Mates" was half drama/half comedy, and the Lapis and Peridot parts of "Beta" were almost entirely slice-of-life. So out of her four major appearances in the season, only one was really that drama-heavy.

DeathsApprentice The Ultimate Lifeform from The Ark Since: Aug, 2011 Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
The Ultimate Lifeform
#41690: Aug 28th 2016 at 7:35:47 AM

[up]x5: I wasn't aware that some fans insisted that Lapis be happier. That doesn't really make sense for her character. I mean, she's been through a lot of shit, it makes sense that she wouldn't be all sunshine-and-rainbows all the time. I really love her bitter and apathetic characterization way more than that hypothetical alternative.

edited 28th Aug '16 7:36:07 AM by DeathsApprentice

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41691: Aug 28th 2016 at 8:16:30 AM

Yeah. Part of why I like Jasper and Lapis so much is because of their depression, and how I identify with it. Admittedly, I always liked Jasper, but since Earthlings and Rebecca Sugar's interview, I like her much much more.

I pretty much switch between apathy, like Lapis, and acting like I'm awesome and perfect and can do no wrong, like Jasper. I'm glad that they're showing depression as being more varied than just being mopey all the time. They're depicting it in realistic ways.

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41693: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:22:31 AM

Steven's face looks weirdly triangular, in parts of this clip.

edited 28th Aug '16 9:22:56 AM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41694: Aug 28th 2016 at 9:29:32 AM

Just that last part, really.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#41695: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:24:16 AM

: Steven has to deal with the consequences of repressing traumatic memories of the times where he failed to save three different people from A Fate Worse Than Death.

Bismuth wasn't really subjected to a fate worse than death, she's basically just dead.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41696: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:31:57 AM

People tend to forget how bubbles work...when making that statement.

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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41697: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:46:47 AM

Bismuth is in stasis. She's not experiencing a fate worse than death, and she's not "dead" either.

Garnet: They're cared for in the stasis of the bubble. As long as they're bubbled, they can't hurt anyone, and they won't suffer. It's what Rose wanted.

And Jasper is basically being prevented from suffering. She basically only experienced it for a few seconds before poofing and being bubbled.

edited 28th Aug '16 10:49:44 AM by xanderiskander

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#41698: Aug 28th 2016 at 10:48:44 AM

If you're in sensory stasis and there are no plans to ever remove you from there, you might as well be dead.

I probably should have phrased my initial statement differently though.

edited 28th Aug '16 10:49:17 AM by Draghinazzo

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41699: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:45:23 AM

Well, they haven't given up on trying to cure corruption, so though there's no definite timeline of unbubbling and curing it, saying they plan on leaving Jasper and all the others like that forever isn't exactly right either.

Edit: On Lapis, maybe everything doesn't turn to drama when she's around, but it does when she's prominent, which makes it feel like everything with her. For what it's worth, I also identify with he apathy. Not because I have depression, but just because my general mood is...not conductive to great social interaction or emotion. But whether or identify with aspects of a character has never been a big thing with me.

edited 28th Aug '16 11:48:20 AM by LSBK

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41700: Aug 28th 2016 at 11:55:54 AM

Apathy is the feeling with absolutely Zero negatives.

You only ever feel stuff when you want to, not need to.

For that mental state, Lazuli needs a new outfit that goes with it.

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