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xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41526: Aug 26th 2016 at 1:59:51 PM

The recent episode should kind of prove that's not a theme. The whole thing was about Steven's turmoil, because he couldn't do that.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#41527: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:00:56 PM

Yeah they've set Jasper up pretty well to get one. If anything it'd be pretty weird and frankly pretty wrong to just let her stay corrupted and without help at this point.

She didn't refuse his help out of malice or pride. She thinks she doesn't deserve it.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:01:28 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#41528: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:01:03 PM

It had Bismuth in there too and a lot of people are saying Bismuth should come back and be redeemed.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41529: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:01:25 PM

[up][up][up][up]I never said she couldn't be reached. If they want to, and they likely do, it can happen. But if they don't go that route it's not like it's some grand betrayal of everything the show represents.

[up][up]Well, obviously she's not going to stay corrupted, by the end of the series they're clearly going to have fixed that for all of them.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:04:27 PM by LSBK

AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#41530: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:02:54 PM

We don't even know what route they're going. I keep on saying wait and see, but so many people jump the gun that it starts debates like this. Patience is a virtue, ya know.

I mean, me and my friend both want Jasper redeemed, but I still wanna wait and see what happens first. There's other stuff I wanna see first (more Rose and Greg flashbacks, Lion, Peridot and Lapis at the barn, stuff from Homeworld, Centipeetle, the Ruby Squad, etc.).

edited 26th Aug '16 2:04:00 PM by AdricDePsycho

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41531: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:03:57 PM

-slowly raises sign saying "Yellow Diamond redemption"-

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41532: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:04:10 PM

You can't reach all people, but why specifically can't you reach Jasper? That's the sticking point here.
She's kind of beyond reaching at this point. The only way for him to do that now is to help Jasper against her wishes, and if he does that she'll just think he's doing it to manipulate her.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:05:08 PM by xanderiskander

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41533: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:04:26 PM

The way they handled her getting corrupted kinda leads towards the redemption route.

But it could still go either way, I guess.

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#41534: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:04:39 PM

I disagree, I think at the moment redeeming Jasper would be an Ass Pull. She rejected Steven's help, after all. If it was not just because of hating Rose, but because she sees herself as a failure, that's not going to change any time soon.

Oissu!
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#41535: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:04:40 PM

OK, even I think Yellow Diamond redemption would be slightly too far.

Clearly Blue Diamond redemption is the right path.

[up]

Let me repeat: WAIT. AND. SEE.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:05:17 PM by AdricDePsycho

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41536: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:05:06 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]That is specifically my worst fear. It would really downgrade my opinion of the show.

[up]Most of the people of the people who aren't waiting and seeing are insisting she will be redeemed.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:11:45 PM by LSBK

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41537: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:06:00 PM

She's voiced by Patti Lupone. I can't not love her.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#41538: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:07:16 PM

If Yellow Diamond doesn't get redeemed then she at least needs a song.

Oh really when?
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#41539: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:08:12 PM

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I think you typo'd that. Either way, again, wait and see how it goes. You're all so worried about if it happens, if it'll be an asspull, if this, if that, yada yada yada, just stop and enjoy the show.

[up]

Pearl's voice actress said she'd recorded one with her, I think.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:08:35 PM by AdricDePsycho

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PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
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#41540: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:08:25 PM

She will probably get a song. And it will be GLORIOUS.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:09:10 PM by PhiSat

Oissu!
smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41541: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:08:51 PM

I want her to sing Anything Goes with a bunch of Jaspers.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41542: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:11:43 PM

"Who knows what could happen?"

Personally, if flying dog gets to make a proper character introduction, I'd be all against it.

They should another Peridot gem soon.

Everyone has to show a moment of weakness.

Stephen has yet to fully hate a Gem.

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#41543: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:13:41 PM

I at least pity (if not sympathize with) anyone who hates themselves, even if they're overall shitty people, mostly because it's a horrible way to exist. Jasper isn't necessarily my favorite character or anything, nor was I necessarily expecting or hoping for her to be "redeemed", but I do like the direction they've gone with the character.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:14:50 PM by Draghinazzo

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41544: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:16:15 PM

I don't need her to stay a villain. Like, going the other way can obviously be done well. It's just that I disagree with the notion that because she has these problems it's somehow wrong if they don't solve them, and that it would set a valuable precedent.

I get leaning one way or the other, though. Just not forcefully.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:20:01 PM by LSBK

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#41545: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:16:20 PM

Yeah, I enjoy the tragic direction they took with Jasper's character as well.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#41546: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:17:25 PM

[up][up] I agree with that too. It would be a bit tragic given how they've set her up if she isn't helped in some way, but you can't really save everyone.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:17:48 PM by Draghinazzo

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41547: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:19:28 PM

I mean, they've already had Steven accept that sometimes killing is necessary and things don't always end happily. It would be a bit weird to not have make him face a situation like that directly and not just hear about ones that Rose faced. If not with Jasper then somewhere else down the line.

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#41548: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:20:21 PM

I think that's more or less what happened with Bismuth. Some people were saying they expected her to come back, and I was a bit puzzled because I thought the story was pretty good the way it was.

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#41549: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:20:28 PM

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I'm pretty sure they'll do that with the Diamonds.

edited 26th Aug '16 2:20:46 PM by AdricDePsycho

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#41550: Aug 26th 2016 at 2:20:32 PM

If only it couldn't possibly be contrived, Corruption Jaspee should be sent to HW and they could cure and/or use that...to take care of the CG menace.

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