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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41326: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:13:35 PM

[up][up]No one said you were. But you're kind of pushy about it.

That being said, Jasper being a CG just seems wrong. Lapis isn't even a CG. If they're going to save her I'd rather she just go off on her own for awhile.

edited 25th Aug '16 4:15:49 PM by LSBK

MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#41327: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:14:17 PM

oh right i forgot all of those things happened in a short time of one another

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#41328: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:16:13 PM

Pssht. The Jasper thing and the Eyeball thing happened in the same day, practically.

WillKeaton from Alberta, Canada Since: Jun, 2010
#41329: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:16:21 PM

Ya know Steven, If you feel bad about leaving the Rubies to float endlessly in the eternal emptiness of space you could get in your spaceship and find them!

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41330: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:16:43 PM

[up]x5 I'd believes it.

[up]No, they can't.

edited 25th Aug '16 4:18:06 PM by randomness4

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MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#41331: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:17:47 PM

sure they can itll take anywhere between 2 hours and 2 millennia and they might get smashed by space debris before you get to them but its worth a shot

edited 25th Aug '16 4:19:46 PM by MsAmiClassified

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41332: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:18:01 PM

And I still don't buy Steven trying to save Jasper before, well, anyone so if that happens the why would have to be pretty good beyond how they figured out how to undo corruption.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41333: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:19:21 PM

Because Jaspee is closer than the Centipeetles...

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#41334: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:22:01 PM

What impressive visuals this contained. And seeing Garnet in mentor mode is a delight

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#41335: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:22:46 PM

He doesn't see Centipeedle as someone he failed to help. He saw Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball. Jasper is easily accessible at the temple, and the crew doesn't have to worry about getting ahold of her actress like with Bismuth.

It's not about healing corruption, it's about Steven feeling he failed her. Plus, again, the central theme of Season 4 is learning to love yourself without being in a relationship, which doesn't apply to Bismuth, Centi, or Eyeball.

SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#41336: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:22:59 PM

The difference between Connie and Jeff and Steven and Bismuth/Jasper/Eyeball is that they all refused his help. Connie made a mistake, and worked to fix it. Steven didn't make any mistakes in his handling of those three, they're the ones who refused him. Connie even told him there was nothing more that could be done.

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#41337: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:24:30 PM

Renewed efforts to help Centi, please. Centi would seem a lot less forced than Jasper.

I'd also love for Bismuth to come back so soon, but it doesn't seem likely.

Oissu!
MsAmiClassified Tired of givin' up the ghost from the fucking ocean Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Tired of givin' up the ghost
#41338: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:25:08 PM

If you want to be technical about it Jaspy is probably the worst person to start with since she has a grudge against Steven that'll probably resurface about halfway through treatment and cause a relapse almost immediately and I don't think anyone has an answer for that. Plus she's the odd duck; not counting the stasis, she just got like that, as opposed to everyone else who's been like that for thousands of years.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41339: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:25:17 PM

[up][up][up][up]Yes, Jaspee is closer than the Centipeetles...that's what I said.

edited 25th Aug '16 4:25:45 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#41340: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:25:29 PM

[up][up][up][up]That too. A big part of Steven's arc is making piece with the fact that things don't always work out. That doesn't mean he shouldn't try to save everyone, but it accepting he can't always help.

Edit: Also, I'd say that Lapis needs to work on loving herself, too.

edited 25th Aug '16 4:27:39 PM by LSBK

PhiSat Planeswalker from Everywhere and Nowhere Since: Jan, 2011
Planeswalker
#41341: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:25:59 PM

Steven at least won Bismuth's respect by saying he was going to tell the others what happened rather than hiding the problem.

Oissu!
AdricDePsycho Rock on, Gold Dust Woman from Never Going Back Again Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Rock on, Gold Dust Woman
#41342: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:27:17 PM

I'd rather we wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.

I mean, I'd certainly want to see Jasper get redeemed, but I also wanna see how the rest of the show goes first.

Have you any dreams you'd like to sell?
BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#41343: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:30:20 PM

Okay, I didn't expect this episode to be so great. It might just bump another episode out of my Top 10.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#41345: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:33:11 PM

To have an immediate list.

Though, if it's an overall list...patience is necessary.

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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#41346: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:33:34 PM

[up][up] Well, it's more of an "At The Moment" Top 10 than anything. I like seeing it constantly change. It means I can quantify which episodes I like before the show inevitably ends.

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#41347: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:33:47 PM

Seriously, this song is freaking great.

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
SilentColossus (Don’t ask)
#41348: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:36:06 PM

@LSBK

I see season 3 as preparing Steven, and the audience, for enemies that do not want to change, or believe that they can. Starting small with Marty and Kevin, before escalating to Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball. The Diamonds will be much, much worse. The antagonists were still sympathetic this season, especially Bismuth, but the Diamonds will likely have their sympathetic traits drowned out by everything that makes them horrible.

Even if season 3' antagonists get redeemed, it prepares the audience for those that won't.

edited 25th Aug '16 4:57:31 PM by SilentColossus

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
Blowout soon fellow Stalker
#41349: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:37:18 PM

Jasper's expressions made me hurt.

Oh really when?
Austin Since: Jan, 2001
#41350: Aug 25th 2016 at 4:38:10 PM

I see this season as preparing Steven, and the audience, for enemies that do not want to change, or believe that they can. Starting small with Marty and Kevin, before escalating to Bismuth, Jasper, and Eyeball. The Diamonds will be much, much worse. The antagonists were still sympathetic this season, especially Bismuth, but the Diamonds will likely have their sympathetic traits drowned out by everything that makes them horrible.

Even if this season's antagonists get redeemed, it prepares the audience for those that won't.

Ooh, I like the way you're thinking. That would make a nice, gradual build up to Steven having to learn that lesson.


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