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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40651: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:03:11 PM

There's really no point to making things so different if Gemkind wasn't somehow involved with it.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#40652: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:05:36 PM

also,they have a really imaginative name for their home planet

In fairness we named our planet Ground, our moon Moon, and our sun Sun. We're not that imaginative either.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#40653: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:09:13 PM

Those were really innovative back in the day.

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40654: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:19:36 PM

There's really no point to making things so different if Gemkind wasn't somehow involved with it.
This also got deleted, but Joe Johnston had a tumblr answer stating that some, but not all, of the geographical differences were because of gems. You'll have to find a reblog to confirm, but I think West Africa's different location was even part of the question.

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40655: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:22:53 PM

So anyone want to speculate what the two as of yet unseen diamonds will be like?

White Diamond I'm guessing will be a Totalitarian Utilitarian. Pink Diamond would either be the Token Good Teammate or The Caligula.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40656: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:25:26 PM

I think Pink Diamond being the Token Good Teammate (or as far as you could reasonably expect her to be, given who she is) or at least Affably Evil would make for the best story, since it makes Rose's decision to shatter her more tragic and makes their relationship more interesting. It makes that plot point have more impact than if PD was just a petty tyrant like YD.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40657: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:25:54 PM

Pink Diamond being a Token Good Teammate, kind of changes the dynamics of things in a way that I don't think they want. I mean, how do you define "good" when her objective was to turn the planet into a lifeless wasteland?

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40658: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:28:47 PM

[up] It's possible the fact that Earth's organic life was every bit as sentient and capable of feeling pain as gems simply didn't occur to her.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:28:59 PM by CaptainCapsase

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#40659: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:29:05 PM

Lifeless for us, not for the Gems. What Peridot described was a paradise if you're a gay space rock.

Oh really when?
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40660: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:30:08 PM

[up][up][up]When people say Token Good Teammate, they just mean "in comparison to the other diamonds", not that she was full-out benevolent or anything. For example, it could be that PD was genuinely quite appreciative, approachable and patient with all gems but didn't think the lives of humans and other Earth creatures were valuable enough to get worked up about.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:30:56 PM by Draghinazzo

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40661: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:30:55 PM

[up]I've never seen the term used that way. And her actually being nice to her subordinates doesn't actually make the issue any grayer.

Going "she just didn't think about it" isn't better than "active malice" if she kept it up after it was pointed out.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:32:05 PM by LSBK

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40662: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:31:32 PM

It's not really the best term to use if I'm honest. Affably Evil is probably closer to what I described.

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40664: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:33:13 PM

[up][up][up] I mean, the very nature of gems more or less requires them to continuously expand at the cost of other (intelligent?) forms of life. Most humans don't really care much about the suffering we inflict on species other than our own. Considering the Gems came here before recorded history, human society would've been so primitive that they might not have even realized humans were sentient. Rose certainly didn't seem to think of humans as anything beyond "amusing pets" until she met Greg.

Hell, for a mineral based holographic lifeform, the idea that a being hydrocarbons and water could be as intelligent as a rock would sound absolutely absurd.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:35:33 PM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40665: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:35:31 PM

[up]Difference is, Gems aren't in any crucial need, or even biological imperative, to expand.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:36:05 PM by LSBK

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40666: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:36:11 PM

[up] Based on Peridot's comments about resources shortages, it sounds like they do in fact need to continuously bring in new materials to keep their society functioning.

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#40667: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:36:25 PM

Peridot said Homeworld was running out of resources. They might actually be in an "Expand or Die" kinda situation now.

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edited 16th Aug '16 5:36:36 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40668: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:37:22 PM

the very nature of gems more or less requires them to continuously expand at the cost of other (intelligent?) forms of life.
The qualities that make Earth life-sustaining might be why it's good for growing gems, but that doesn't mean they can only be grown on already-inhabited planets.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40669: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:38:24 PM

Peridot's statement could mean a lot of things. But we that they themselves receive all they need from their Gems, and they may very well not have a naturally ending life cycle.

Like, I'm not denying they probably think of life on Earth like a lot of people think of everything that isn't human. But if humans thinking that way isn't excusable why would Gems thinking that way be so?

edited 16th Aug '16 5:40:28 PM by LSBK

LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#40670: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:38:32 PM

[up][up]Didn't Pearl say in one of the Classroom Gem shorts that Gems required life essence or whatever from the planet to actually grow in the ground?

edited 16th Aug '16 5:39:02 PM by LeGarcon

Oh really when?
CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40671: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:39:02 PM

[up][up][up] I can't imagine they'd bother with Earth rather than any of the trillions of other similar rocks that are present in our galaxy if the fact that Earth had life on it wasn't important. The other terrestrial worlds would've been an equally valid choice if it was just about the planet's material composition.

[up][up] Are you a vegan?

edited 16th Aug '16 5:39:55 PM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40672: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:40:42 PM

[up]No. But I as I already know what you're going for, I'll preemptively strike. Farming animals and crops isn't the same thing as destroying everything in your wake.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:42:40 PM by LSBK

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40673: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:42:22 PM

By "thinking that way", LSBK didn't mean "thinking we could use other lifeforms to our advantage", I believes he means "thinking we could do anything to all other lifeforms, even wiping them out, for our own benefit".

edited 16th Aug '16 5:43:08 PM by thatother1dude

CaptainCapsase from Orbiting Sagittarius A* Since: Jan, 2015
#40674: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:42:39 PM

[up][up] Actually that's pretty much the logical conclusion of capitalism.

edited 16th Aug '16 5:43:45 PM by CaptainCapsase

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40675: Aug 16th 2016 at 5:43:19 PM

[up][up]Bingo.

[up]That's nice but it's not really what we were talking about...


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