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Mr.Badguy Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#40476: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:52:48 PM

So now that Summer of Steven is over, any particular rankings you got?

Best episode is beyond a shadow of a doubt Mr. Greg. Incredible from start to finish, boatloads of character development, and the best musical number in the entire series.

After that, the Bismuth special is my number two. She was a fantastic character and Steven being forced into a genuinely complex and difficult problem for which there is no morally clear way to get out, dang it was just great. I never thought Steven Universe would pull the "sometimes cynicism is the way" card, but they couldn't have done a better job.

As for worst episode, that's easily gotta be Drop Beat Dad. It was ten minutes of wasted potential. Beach City Drift and New Lars were pretty meh but had good moments, and Bubbled felt like it should have been a lot better, but DBD was just really boring.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40477: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:53:23 PM

[up][up][up][up]let see

Garnet: black, not doubt about it

Rose and Pearl: white.

Peridot: korean, yeah I call a steriotype but she is one step of playing startcraft and having debate online

Lapis:...asian, maybe?

Jasper: for some reason I see her as Latina, dont get me why it just sort of happen

Amathyst: mixed race

edited 15th Aug '16 8:55:26 PM by unknowing

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Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40478: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:55:29 PM

Bismuth and Mr. Greg are my two favorite episodes. I think I like Bismuth a little more, and I might like it even more in retrospect with the revelation that Rose shattered Pink Diamond.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#40479: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:56:06 PM

My favorite sos episode was Earthlings, then Mr. Greg, then Bubbled.

Least favorite was The New Lars.

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40480: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:57:28 PM

I don't like Drop Beat Dad very much but The New Lars was also not something I was too hot on either.

Oh, and Earthlings is probably my second favorite episode, I forgot about that. Guess that'd put Mr Greg at third.

edited 15th Aug '16 8:59:17 PM by Draghinazzo

thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40481: Aug 15th 2016 at 8:58:21 PM

The only thing that's coding Bismuth as black is her hairstyle and her voice actress.
Her skin color vaguely resembles that of black people with really ashy skin—sort of like the Gross Sisters in The Proud Family—plus her nose is similar to Garnet's and especially Kiki/Jenny's (though there are other black characters with completely different noses).

Still, her lips are thin and her face/head's shape is more like Steven's than anyone else's.

edited 15th Aug '16 9:01:00 PM by thatother1dude

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thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40484: Aug 15th 2016 at 9:40:47 PM

I think a good way to think of the question is "What races do I imagine the gems could be if they were human, but still recgonizable as the same character?":

  • Garnet: black
  • Rose: white
  • Amethyst, Ruby: anything
  • Pearl, Lapis: anything but black
  • Peridot: LGM
  • Sapphire: mixed raced (black and non-black)
  • Bismuth, Smoky Quartz: black or mixed raced
  • Jasper, Other fusions: Their faces have too humanly impossible features to imagine them as human—unless Jasper's nose had a Gaston Julia-style prosthetic. Though Jasper's face strip does sort of look like alopecia.

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#40485: Aug 15th 2016 at 9:50:45 PM

@A bit back: this episode not only confirms that Garnet is about as strong as Smoky Quartz, if not a bit stronger, but that Garnet is also stronger than Stevonnie, who also drove off Jasper. I'm pretty positive the implication here is that Garnet is stronger than Jasper.

edited 15th Aug '16 9:52:13 PM by PushoverMediaCritic

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40486: Aug 15th 2016 at 9:51:03 PM

Let see

Steven float: a nice change of pace after all the cluster and malachite buissness, also very funny as hell

Drop beat dad: I get they try to keep it lighter but....the episode is really bad, I mean fresh prince did way better and it was a sitcom from the 90

Mr.greg: pretty much one of the best episode, the acting is great, Steven actually plan something, Pearl finally ditch is "feud" with Greg and more of Rose is reveal....in short a good episode

To short to ride: another good episode from Peridot, her use of tablet is good, her having magnetic power too and it reveal weakness of Homeworld.

The new lars: I will be honest here and said is the weakest episode of SU so far...no, actually I will said is a bad episode, no only Steve regress from having not clue what to do(which feel weird after Steven float and Mr greg) but Lars is show AGAIN as jerk that move very slowly, to the point Steve impresioing him improve is social life for the best, the fact he got karma houdini about it bother me.

In short, is plain bad episode

Beach city drift: I like the moral and all but....damn, KEVING! I just like how much of douchebag it is, maybe is because I like antagonist and villian and him is just "douchbag and loving it" also pissed off Steven is awsome.

Restaurant wars: nice concept but the short time work againt them, is just to much in once episode of 11 minute, they need a least 4 more to make it work

Kiki delivery pizza service: Good episode but the conflict is a little "Been there dont that", the final part is nausa fuel for all the pizza but end is rather nice.

Monster reunion: pretty good too as it show more of Centi and the homeworld war, the way it keep was....damn, also I keep saying gem writing is going to be another chevok gun.

Alone in sea: is good but the whole Jasper and Lapis need to hold longer in order to kick out, I enjoy the complexity in Lapis as her abuse jasper as much at it takes.

Greg the babysitter: Meh episode at best, it dosent add anything more than some backstory for him, it dose show more of rose on the other hand.

Gem hunt: ...good episode I guess? nothing sort happen except Jasper enter, John cena style, for the rest is...ok?

Crack the whip: at first it was a boring episode...AND THEM JASPER JUST SHOW UP, them it REALLY turn good, granted is my villian bias showing up again but I just really like Jasper here.

Steven vs Amathyst: I really come this and crack the whip as the same episode but anyway, it was great way of seting angst and REALLY good way of setting up, also is bonding to foreshow smorkey quartz

Bismuth: Now....damn, this is so far THE best episode, from problem, to the chararter is just that good, I consider one of the greatest episode in SU, right with Rose scarbard.

Beta: on his own not good episode...in fact it feel part of one as everything let to Earthlings, nevertheless Peridot and Lapis art museum are good.

Earthlings: One of the best episode so far, as it conclude Jasper, granted I agree with her in away" fusion,fusion,fusion, is the only trick you call do?" on the other hand "MY DIAMOND" was jojo level of narm charm

Back to the moon: funny episode with Rubies back again, the revelation of shattering PD(you can here shallayman cried of joy with that twist) and what happen afterward

Bubbled: good episode...but not season final, granted those Space background are awsome

In short, it start weak but grow really better at the end, there some moment where lenght work againt them but other(Like monster reunion) where is just perfect, the weakest episode are drod beat dad and new lars, the best will be Bismuth, Mr greg and earthlings

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Malco from the Gungeon Since: Oct, 2015
#40487: Aug 15th 2016 at 9:51:51 PM

I am catching up the only way I know best: spoiling myself! Thanks for the posts and discussion, doods!

Episode-wise I'm only at Garnet Universe.

Speaking of G, I'm gaining a headcanon that she's Scottish. [lol]

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#40488: Aug 15th 2016 at 9:55:20 PM

I'm pretty sure Amethyst is also black.

Also Bismuth.

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randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40489: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:02:58 PM

[up]x4 Yeah Garnet's stronger than Jaspee...she sung a song about exactly that.

[up][up]But...Garnet's british.

edited 15th Aug '16 10:03:51 PM by randomness4

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40490: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:05:44 PM

Neither Stevonnie nor Smoky drove off Jasper with physical force only and Garnet was not shown to be physically stronger than Jasper either.

edited 15th Aug '16 10:06:46 PM by LSBK

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#40491: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:08:49 PM

No, Stevonnie totally did. She smashed Jasper through her mount using a sword, than Jasper retreated because Stevonnie is stronk. Garnet is also pretty clearly stronger than Jasper, as evidenced by their entire fight and the damn song she was singing.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
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#40492: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:09:48 PM

The force of that sword swing was mostly gravity. Though Stephonnie did delivery a good hard kick that pushed Jaspee back a fair bit...she was off guard but it didn't knock her down.

edited 15th Aug '16 10:10:41 PM by randomness4

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smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#40493: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:10:43 PM

I can't remember who exactly said it, but I know for certain a member of the crew said "Garnet was losing until she won". Basically, until she tossed Jasper into the reactor thingy, Jasper was beating her.

We've yet to see an unfused gem that can take Jasper in a fight. When they say she's the perfect warrior, they mean it.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40494: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:11:17 PM

[up][up][up]We've had this discussion before. The condition both were in before Jasper got thrown into the generator thing does not agree with you. And you're the one who brought it up so you shouldn't get so hostile with people just for disagreeing with you.

The song always seemed more about being Garnet being a stronger person internally than literally to me.

edited 15th Aug '16 10:12:21 PM by LSBK

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40495: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:11:24 PM

I always thougt Garnet have more combat hability than Jasper but if you see Garnet is also weaken by the fight, showing it wasnt easy.

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#40496: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:11:58 PM

Aside from Lapisaitama.

randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40497: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:13:25 PM

Lazuli had a whole Ocean, she could Lazily defeat Jaspee.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40498: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:15:08 PM

People need to stop treating Lapis' OP status as if it's a constant thing. Yeah, if she has sufficient water, she's near unbeatable, but that's not a constant.

This really struck out to me when somebody said the reason she didn't go to the Beta Kindergarten was because she could end things by herself. As if she'd be that useful in a barren desert.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#40499: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:15:24 PM

I always smile a little bit when Malachite who is two fusin gem beat the living shit of Alexandrite who is 5 fusion gem.

Jasper: you are rght Garnet, fusion is good!

Garnet: :D

Jasper: and using that to beat your sorry as on this planet!

Garnet: D:

that was hilarious

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40500: Aug 15th 2016 at 10:17:20 PM

How did they win that fight, I honestly don't remember.


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