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BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#40151: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:23:55 PM

Is it fair to say that shows that try to be both progressive and accessible to kids and adults tend to attract the kind of people that can obsess over it, to the point where they harass the creators themselves for not making it the way they want?

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
Love is Love is Love
#40152: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:25:35 PM

No. Hold people responsible for their shitty behaviors.

My various fanfics.
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#40153: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:26:57 PM

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Whether they're progressive or not doesn't have anything to do with it, even series that aren't can be magnets for fandom asshattery. It just might manifest in a different form.

PushoverMediaCritic I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out. from the Italy of America Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
I'm sorry Tien, but I must go all out.
#40154: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:28:51 PM

I think it's fair to say that about most big fandoms.

My thoughts on shipping: I have no problems with shipping whomever you want in fiction, just don't hate others for shipping differently, and don't get mad if your ship doesn't pan out. People who ship Real Life people though, disgust me on a fundamental level.

AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#40155: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:36:33 PM

I'm fine if they do it with a big disclaimer at the top of their fics that they don't really think they're a couple, but even if they're not serious, seeing posts saying so-and-so-actor looked at another actor, I see what's going on with you guys ;-) makes me cringe really hard.

MarkVonLewis Since: Jun, 2010
#40156: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:39:22 PM

Honestly I know nothing of this show beyond how fans have acted like complete and utter buttocks.

smokeycut Since: Mar, 2013
#40157: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:41:52 PM

I just... Seriously don't understand how a show with such a huge message of "be kind and loving to others" could attract so many angry, vindictive people.

It's so confusing.

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#40158: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:42:06 PM

[up][up] This was honestly my introduction to the fandom. After a friend, a straight white male friend mind you, advised me to watch it, I started with Hulu episodes, then stopped because of all this...cringe.

edited 13th Aug '16 4:42:19 PM by Beatman1

hcobb Since: Jan, 2001
#40159: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:50:33 PM

Beware of Fusion Transmitted Corruption. When you fuse with Steven you're fusing with every gem that Rose Quartz ever fused with.

Just say no to the Crystal Gems. Keep Homeworld pure and strong.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from the Amiga Forest (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
Disasturbator
#40160: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:53:15 PM

> Seriously don't understand how a show with such a huge message of "be kind and loving to others" could attract so many angry, vindictive people.

Opposites attract

have a listen and have a link to my discord server
xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#40161: Aug 13th 2016 at 4:53:42 PM

[up][up][up] Whatever floats your boat. If some jerks are enough to stop you from watching a show, then I guess you never really liked the show that much in the first place.

edited 13th Aug '16 4:54:37 PM by xanderiskander

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#40162: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:01:36 PM

[up] I had no opinion of the show. I got a recommendation and then got disgusted. I still have two and a half seasons I debate watching.

JBC31187 Since: Jan, 2015
#40163: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:05:40 PM

I just limit my fandom interactions to this board and a few others. There are moderators, and the people here are good about not being assholes. The tumblrs and other outside links have been looked at and vetted by people who aren't vicious shitheels, so I feel fine clicking on them. Which is why it's always an ugly surprise when I hear about this horrible shit.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#40164: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:06:12 PM

[up][up]The show is definitely worth it. I'd advise you to just stay away from Tumblr or the like to discuss it...

edited 13th Aug '16 5:06:26 PM by LSBK

Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40165: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:08:30 PM

A show and its fandom are two different things. Most of the fandoms I've been a part of have done something reprehensible in the past but it doesn't really have anything to do with my personal enjoyment of the show or detracts from the pleasant experiences I DO have with the rest of the fandom.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
Funny but not helpful
#40166: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:08:38 PM

I'm proud to be a vet

Forever liveblogging the Avengers
AlleyOop Since: Oct, 2010
#40167: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:09:06 PM

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Just watch the show and stick to these threads for discussion. If you can't avoid the fandom on Tumblr completely then just limit yourself to the artists or people you know from other fandoms who are casual fans of this show, they're way less likely to embed themselves in the SU fandom's own drama.

On an unrelated note I am worried something like this is going to blow up in the Voltron fandom that given there's a similar sort of one-sided shipping war (people already saying that if one of the characters ends up in a gay relationship with one dude over the one that they wanted it's queerbaiting and promotion of pedophilic/abusive relationships on behalf of the creators) and one of the voice actors is in a precarious situation like Zuke's due to some casual shipping jokes he made early on, and has already made statements about not to ask him anymore shipping questions because he's just a VA and not in a position to answer them.

edited 13th Aug '16 5:13:23 PM by AlleyOop

xanderiskander Since: Mar, 2012
#40168: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:10:25 PM

If you like a show, watch it. I would never let some bad apples dictate what I think about a show. If this forum ever got as bad as that I would just leave, and keep watching. I'm not bothering with that BS.

edited 13th Aug '16 5:10:45 PM by xanderiskander

BlueBlaze64 The Watcher on the Tower from Empire City Since: Sep, 2012 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
The Watcher on the Tower
#40169: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:10:54 PM

I had no opinion of the show. I got a recommendation and then got disgusted. I still have two and a half seasons I debate watching.

Don't let the fandom ruin your opinion of the show. It's a really good and entertaining show.

edited 13th Aug '16 5:11:34 PM by BlueBlaze64

"The cruelest thing you can do to an artist is tell them their work is flawless when it isn't." -Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw
Draghinazzo (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: I get a feeling so complicated...
#40170: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:13:13 PM

I'm proud to be a vet

Do you mean you've been here since the beginning of season 1?

I only got into the show when season 2 was starting.

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#40171: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:14:02 PM

I tend to stay far away from the fandom outside of cool fanart. Its always relatively easy to enjoy a popular show and stay away from its fandom. Then again I've gotten used to this kinda thing.

[up]I was kinda on and off untill Lapis first showed up, then I was pretty much hooked.

edited 13th Aug '16 5:18:13 PM by dmysta3000

GUNDAMU GUNDAMU
thatother1dude from Land of the Ill, Annoyin' Since: Jan, 2001
#40172: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:20:07 PM

Can you think of any popular series whose fandom hasn't been broadly declared as terrible?

edited 13th Aug '16 5:20:22 PM by thatother1dude

dmysta3000 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
randomness4 Ghost '11 from The Land of Inconvenience Since: Sep, 2011
Ghost '11
#40174: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:21:31 PM

[up][up]Casper the friendly ghost's?

edited 13th Aug '16 5:23:37 PM by randomness4

Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.
darkabomination Since: Mar, 2012
#40175: Aug 13th 2016 at 5:22:06 PM

Let's get away from this. Talking about it more will only make this thread more unhappy.

Seriously, all this aside, Lapidot really is a cute ship I've grown quite fond of. Hopefully Peri won't have to choose between her two great loves. With how open the Gems are though, I wouldn't be surprised if Amethyst was just fine with sharing.

Also, meepmorps.


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